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October 28, 2006

Dear Karl,

Some six years ago during a routine physical check up, I failed the exercise tolerance test. The consultant physician of the hospital advised me to undergo angiography. I did not go through it because that meant open heart surgery.

After consultations with two other cardiologists, I underwent thallium test, which revealed ischimia of ventral part and was diagnosed to have Stable Angina.

One of the cardiologist suggested chelation.

So, I studied it and ultimately agreed to I/V chelation. I had some 80 infusions at weekly intervals, which was later changed to fortnightly and finally at monthly intervals. In total I had about 120 infusions.

All this time, I was also browsing about chelation particularly oral chelation. Studying many oral products being marketed for several weeks, I decided that Life Glow Basic (LGB) was better and more suitable for me.

It is now almost two years of using LGB and my heart problem appears to have stabilized. I do not get angina pain - only breathlessness when under physical or emotional stress. Moreover, I had arthritis of left knee for several years that bothered me more during winter. That has completely disappeared. There is no pain now, winter or summer.

In addition, for several years my wife suffered from pain in the back and knee. Experiencing such good results about my knee pain, I convinced my wife to try LGB. She has been taking one capsule daily for the last about one year. Now she does not have pain in the back or knee.

Haleem HasnainAge: 75 years
Islamabad-Pakistan

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Dear Haleem,

This is great, but I would sure like to have more.

Karl Loren

October 28, 2006

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Dear Karl,

I am glad you liked the testimonial. Attached is a short background about me and my family. I trust this is what you wanted.

He [cardiologist] is a highly qualified and one of the eminent specialists here. He has studied also in USA and Japan and is a member of the American Heart Association. When he suggested chelation, I told him that the AHA may kick him out if they found out that you are recommending chelation. He said that his attitude is to do what he thinks is in the best interests of his patient. I liked that. So, he started chelation. He is the head of the cardiology department of what is called Services Hospital here in Islamabad. It is government hospital run by the Federal Government.

I am sending separately photos of me, wife, daughter and a photo each from our recent holidays in Western China and Turkey. These should be OK?

Best regards,

Haleem

and,

Short Background

I am an agricultural scientist with specialization in animal science. I graduated from a local university in Lahore, got Ph .D from UK, did my post doctorate work in Sweden and received management training in USA.

I held several senior positions in public sector agencies/departments in different areas of Pakistan like chairman and managing director. In 1985, I was selected as an expert by the Food and Agricultural Organisation of the United Nations and served in several countries in North Africa and the Middle East (Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Cyprus, Iraq and Yemen). I retired from the UN in 1993 and now live in Islamabad that is the capital of Pakistan.

During my service here in Pakistan, I have traveled widely in the world to participate in meetings/conferences as leader/ member of the delegations representing Pakistan and have negotiated loans with the World Bank for development projects. Since retirement, I am a freelance consultant and sometimes undertake short assignment if it is interesting. Otherwise just enjoy life.

I am married and my wife Shahnaz has a Master's degree in genetics. She has also studied in Davis, California and Wisconsin. Her name in Persian means pride of the king. Incidentally, my name Haleem means modest. My surname is Hasnain. This in Arabic means the two grand sons (Hassan and Hussain) of Prophet Mohammad. Shahnaz also used to work but is now happy to be a whole time housewife. We have a daughter named Saher, which means Dawn. She is a under graduate student at a local university studying environmental science.

Currently, my focus is on enjoying life with the family. We strongly believe in family values. Islamabad is nice, green, quiet and with virtually no pollution. Summers can be hot but winter is nice. It snows every 2-4 years but even with minus 2-4 C, the sky is blue with maximum temperature around 15 or so. So, on the whole it is a nice place to live. We travel abroad every year on about 2 weeks holidays in addition to visiting relatives and friends whenever possible within the country.

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Dear Haleem,

Impressive and interesting.

Take a look on the web to see if there is anything that you might prefer to NOT have there, or to add?

I've put your photos amongst your text.

Regards,

Karl

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Dear Haleem,

Now that I've had more time to read your material, you might be interested in a few items about me.

I have an MBA from the Harvard Business School.

I spent three years as an "economist and bank investigator" in Ghana many years ago. I recall vividly how Nkrumah tried to develop his country.

He got the Yugoslavians to build a factory in the North of Ghana -- about 500 miles up from the coast. They felt that the local people could grow tomatoes and that a factory to make tomato paste would help that area.

Part of my job was to use US AID money to hire consultants to study the feasibility of converting government owned business (which the tomato paste factory was) to private ownership.

I hired American agricultural and other specialists -- traveled with them for some weeks on the site -- we got the Yougos to operate the plant for the first time ever.

Here is Ghana -- where I lived for three years.

To get to the factory we would fly to Tamale, then jeep further north -- this was virtually desert with almost all of the inhabitants being Muslim. I remember visiting one compound up there were the "chief" had 100 wives -- they all lived in harmony, with perhaps some exceptions. The chief would select among his many children the bright ones to go to school.

An American I met up there sent his son walking some miles to the nearest school, carrying a 22 caliber gun to kill snakes. This is the area where I went on my famous elephant hunt!

Tomatoes were grown in tiny plots in that area because, otherwise, the wandering goats would eat all -- so they had to fence the plots and the plots were just big enough for the one family.

You know about "tomato set?" I didn't. Unfortunately the temperature in that area was such that the night temperature was not cooler than the day temperature, so the tomato plants would bloom, but never set -- so did not develop any fruit except on rare occasions when it had been properly cool some time earlier.

The big problem was "nematodes" (??) that ate the roots of the plants.

Nematodes are the most numerous multicellular animals on earth. A handful of soil will contain thousands of the microscopic worms, many of them parasites of insects, plants or animals. Free-living species are abundant, including nematodes that feed on bacteria, fungi, and other nematodes, yet the vast majority of species encountered are poorly understood biologically. There are nearly 20,000 described species classified in the phylum Nemata(source)

The factory? Fun! I went with the Ghanaian government people to buy tomatoes in the nearby market places -- sold by "mammies" who would come to the market with a tray (on their head) of perhaps 50 pounds of tomatoes and make an entire day, socializing, to sell their stuff.

Young girls practiced carrying stuff on their heads. The image here is of a young girl carrying a sack of (like) coffee beans.

We had these government men running around, trying to buy all the tomatoes in one purchase -- leaving the mammy with nothing to do for the day.

Finally, after three days of frantic buying we got together 8 tons of tomatoes =-- enough to keep the factory running for less than one day.

They made tomato paste. It was fine. The Yougos could now go home.

But, the foreign exchange cost of the tin to make the tin cans was higher than if they had imported tinned tomato paste from any of many foreign sources. The tin used to make the cans had to be transported, with imported fuel, up those 500 miles, to the factory, and the cans of paste transported, with imported fuel, back down those 500 miles to where the market was.

I'm still working on learning to admire that -- but have much more calmness about that now than I did then . . .

when a good Ghanaian friend of mine saw some of the (white) consultants on the edge of an opening and said something in his language to another Ghanaian. I asked him what he said.

He was just a bit embarrassed, but said, "The white guy over there is peeing into the wind -- we certainly know better than that!"

Economics is common sense -- the common Ghanaian never understood the grand economic plan of Nkrumah, or his cohorts, but if you saw the corruption there you had no trouble seeing the reason why a $10,000,000 factory was built with $5,000,000 into the pockets of Nkrumah, and $5,000,000 to the people who built the factory (in an area where tomatoes wouldn't grow and tinned tomato paste cost more than double the cost of importing it -- only taking into account the foreign exchange part of the deal).

The Yougos were just as corrupt -- they "knew" that it was foolish to build a tomato factory 500 miles into nowhere -- but they got more than double the real cost of the factory and labor -- and they got to help spread the communist spirit of Tito. Corruption rules!

Yes, morals and corruption are the bane of sound economics. Corruption at the top is always worse than down at the bottom -- fortunately it is also easier to improve morals at the bottom than at the top.

Karl

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Dear Karl,

Thanks for putting us on the website. It is great. We never had anything like this before. I will welcome any letter from anyone and will try to reply as soon as possible.

haleem hasnain [haleemhasnain@hotmail.com]

Now about your work in Ghana. That is fantastic. I have also been in some wild areas like that particularly during my work in Yemen. But that is a different story.

However, what immediately came to mind after reading your exploits in Ghana was-How a Harvard MBA doing such good work in Ghana came to be involved in what you are doing now? There seems to be no connection. Would you enlighten us? Thanks.

Best regards,

Haleem

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Dear Haleem,

My life has been an adventure -- I am only now, at 75, beginning to appreciate how exhilarating it has been, and how every part of it has led to not only where I am, but who I am now.

I feel that I am at the peak of my abilities now, but with higher potential yet ahead.

How to answer your question briefly!!

When I started in early life I was money-motivated. I wanted the job in Ghana because the salary was quite a bit more than I could earn working in the US, and also because I had a deep-set desire to live and work "overseas."

As I went on through life I found more and more interest in motivation by concepts higher than money -- and worked for a while at the level of "personal conviction."

I am currently at the top of that scale, motivated by duty -- to freedom and truth for mankind -- while making enough money to support my mission.

Ghana was at the very beginning of this sojourn.

The next element of my path was the quest for adventure -- not only adventure in physical terms (I was a Ranger in the Army) but intellectually -- and sought out not only new experiences but new knowledge -- at the time not knowing how well it all knit together to place me here and now with a wealth of experience and knowledge that fits my present mission.

My recent start into Kung Fu has given me a new look at my physical life -- I am now a yellow belt and exercise 6 days per week.

I also enjoy life -- leaving for Hawaii in a few days and regularly travel with my dear wife of 30+ years.

I am also a very spiritual person, with absolute certainty about my past lives and future prospects.

I am currently MOST interested in improving morality on the planet -- thus as you first found me, writing about the remedy for nuclear bombs being am improvement in morals with your neighbors.

I have someone working just now on my biography -- it will be a small start, but it is time.

Warm regards,

Karl Loren

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Dear Karl,

You are not the only person to be money oriented when young. I was also very career oriented which means the same thing. It does take quite a while to realise that money may be important but is not the only element in life that is important.

It seems that your personal conviction and quest of adventure have propelled you to the height you have reached. It appears that you are making the most of it, as well.

I like Kung Fu to the extent of waching its movies. My interest has never gone beyond that.

It is good to be spiritual. My feeling is that it comes with age when the realisation begins to dawn that materialism has serious limitations and is not everything. There are other elements that are parts of being human. And this gives much greater meaning to life and living.

Morality gives order and meaning to life. Whatever one's belief, the moral code is crucial to the well being and even survival of the community. My feeling is that media is contributing substantially to our moral degradation. Improving morality is a tough nut to crack. I feel that perhaps the best way for improving morality is to set good examples ourselves. Lectures and sermons do not work.

Have a nice trip to Hawai.

Best regards,

Haleem

PS: I am still wondering about your transition from an MBA to producing oral chelation and other such products.
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Dear Haleem,

I've told the story of my transition into various phases of my life, mostly HERE.

I'm busy as the dickens just now so I won't take time to add much more now.

 

Regards,

Karl

November 2, 2006

 

Haleem sent me this message from one of his friends about the above article:

 

A worldwide survey was conducted by the UN. The only question asked was:

"Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the food shortage in the rest of the world?"

The survey was a huge failure,
In Africa they didn't know what '*food*' meant,
In India they didn't know what '*honest*' meant,
In Europe they   didn't know what '*shortage*' meant,
In China they didn't know what '*opinion*' meant,
In the Middle East they didn't know what '*solution*' meant,
In South America they didn't know what '*please*' meant,
And in the USA they didn't know what '*the rest of the world*' meant!

Cute? insightful perhaps,

worth considering? definitely.

 

Karl

 

Dear Karl, 

Full answer to what gives me life can be divided into two phases. The first phase or the pre-retirement phase comprises of my professional career that also includes education. For education, life was to get the highest academic qualification. This was followed by career. Like majority of the educated young persons of the time, career was life. This meant accelerated promotions with higher salaries and status. Nothing else really mattered. But this did not mean a mercenary approach to life. Pursuit of a good career entailed hard work, dedication and honesty of purpose. This phase climaxed with a job with the United Nations. One fallout of this phase of education and career was delayed marriage. However, I was lucky to be married to a person who turned out to be a wonderful wife, a caring mother and on the whole a competent housewife.

 

The second phase (the current phase) began after retirement from the last full time job with the UN. A major attraction of a UN job is that one earns a pension after only 5 years. I worked for about 8 years. This means that now I do not have to work for earning a living. This allows me freedom to follow any activity or activities of my choice. Currently, my life is working as facilitator/catalyst for the profession at large or for individuals who may need guidance/assistance. We (me and wife) are also involved in helping charities and welfare organizations and even individuals particularly in areas of health and education.

 

At the family level, life is also caring for our only daughter – providing her guidance (no enforcement) in matters of importance to her mainly through discussion of options for her. Then lastly, life is also trying to live healthy – physically, spiritually and morally. 

To sum up, life is providing facilitation- wherever and whenever possible. That is all. 

I trust that answers your question.

 

All the best,

 

Haleem

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November 13, 2006

You are right, of course, the definition of truth is one of my major accomplishments in life.

 
It is an extensive writing and deep, but well worth the study.
 
I'll give you an advance reference -0- let me know how good or useful you may find it?
 
Thanks,
 
Here:
 
http://www.happinessonline.org/MoralCode/LiveWithTruth/index.htm
 
I am confident I have the truth about truth, but I am not at all confident that I have explained it so that it is easy to understand.
 
There are many many pages if you read the main article and all the links --- your perspective would be a very good one for me to have.


From: haleem hasnain [mailto:haleemhasnain@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 7:30 PM
To: Karl Loren
Subject: RE: 2006Nov01

Dear Karl,

Thanks.

Your mission of helping people find truth is very laudable but an enormous task.  It is very difficult finding truth. It is not only illusive but at times difficult even to define.

Good Luck and all the best,

Haleem


To: "'haleem hasnain'" <haleemhasnain@hotmail.com>

Subject: RE: 2006Nov01
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:41:36 -0800

This, too, published.
 
I've had many goals, phases, am mostly interested in helping people of earth find truth.
 
Karl


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Dear Karl

Dear Karl,

You have put an enormous amount of material on TRUTH. I am still struggling to at least read all of it once. It is not easy. Initially, I made the mistake of going to the links and I got lost. So, I have started again with the main writing.

Hope to send you my observations soon.

Best regards,

Haleem

Dear Haleem,

 

You have put your finger on one of the liabilities of writing in three dimensional space.
 
I feel a great freedom in this writing -- I write, then think of a related thought, keep the first thought, develop the related thought and return to the first thought.
 
Since most of what I write is already in existence, in my mind, I do not lose track of where I am and where I'm going.
 
But, alas, any author is unique in knowing his own intended path -- so I understand that it is not at all easy for a reader to follow.
 
That's an aspect of my writing that I am keen to improve.
 
The central theme on that work, for me, was to take each of the various recognized sources for a moral code and examine the criteria they each used to arrive at the final set.
 
In this way I found that these criteria, invariably, had arbitrary and non-material (spiritual) sources of legitimacy -- I had ruled such out when I started -0- wanting to find a criteria that would support a non-religious moral code -- I was comfortable that I found it -- of course I did not develop this code, but I do understand it the better for my investigation.
 
You might test your own codes, and your own criteria for any of those codes, to see if I've overlooked something which might be central for you??
 
Regards,
 
Karl



 

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