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Dear Karl,  

I am really bowled over by the wealth of information that you have put together on your site. I have learned so much and I am quite convinced of the merits of your arguments. There are so many takes on the subject of heart disease, tho I think your position is the most convincing to me thus far. I do have a couple questions, and some requests.

1. I have not seen anything written on the Linus Pauling/Mathias Rath theory on heart disease. (if you have i missed it. I certain did not scan 4000 pages). Anyway, what is your position on this? The fact that your formula contains high doses of vitamin C and Lysine means that you support his therapy, except that you go a lot further to look at the roots causes of heart disease and deal with the problem at that level. Thank you so much for sharing this information.

2. Do you really believe that high cholesterol has absolutely nothing to with heart disease, and that metal toxicity is the sole cause? What about stress, emotional problems and other kinds of pschyco-somatic-spiritual problems?

My own story is that I have been diagnosed with low grade coronary plague at three places. The usual story is that I have to take cholesterol reducing drugs but I refuse to so instead opted for policosanol ( a natural chol. reducing alcohol derivative). I take 20g of Vit C (calcium ascorbate), and a general vitamin/mineral/antioxidant formula (called clean sweep) formulated by Metabole(see www.metabole.com for details). That is really the best I could find.

I am interested in your product (even to market it in South Africa---shows you how convinced I am of your argument). Do you have anybody in South Africa that markets your products already and do you ship to South Africa (cost is a major factor and the Rand-Dollar exchange is pretty bismal).

Anyway, while I am waiting, I would not like to lose any further ground. What would you recommend I do in the meantime. It seems logical, for example, to get cysteine/NAC/Lysine and continue with "cleansweep"+vit C)?

Oh, I must mention I have about 12 fillings of silver/mercury amalgam from back in the early 80's.

I am looking to your response. Please feel free to post my messages on your site, I dont have a problem.

And once again thanks for getting me hooked to my monitor for more than two days digging through your well researched material and arguments.

Sincerely

Lionel Slammert 
 


Dear Lionel,
I've written a lot about Pauling.
I admire him, but he missed out on pointing at free radicals -0- at least in his writings.
here are references (I have95,000 pages so you can easily miss many.)

The Pauling Therapy Rejected
The Pauling Therapy Rejected. ... Thanks for continuing to regard me as a person worthy
of your interest – regarding the Pauling concept of heart disease. ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p26.htm - 64k - Cached - Similar pages

Comments and Letters from Readers
... i would like to read the differenc between your chellation and linus pauling's
vit c lysine and proline. ... Take a look here: The Pauling Therapy Rejected ... ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p155.htm - 98k - Cached - Similar pages

Textbook on EDTA Chelation Therapy
... Source Edited by Elmer M. Cranton, MD Foreword by Linus Pauling, Ph.D. ... - Nobel
laureate Linus Pauling, PhD. Layout: FOREWORD by Linus Pauling, PhD. ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p203.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages

Cancer Can Be Prevented!
... (source). That story, large and small, is told in these pages. Let's
start with a quote from the famous Dr. Linus Pauling: "Everyone ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/PreventCancer/ - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

Manganese As Essential And Possibly Toxic Mineral
... manganese. THE LINUS PAULING INSTITUTE RECOMMENDATION. The ... California, Davis.
Last updated 08/08/2001 Copyright 2001 The Linus Pauling Institute.
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p35.htm - 68k - Cached - Similar pages

The Cancer Business - by Pat Rattigan ND
... Dr Linus Pauling, double Nobel Laureate, declared: ‘Everyone should
know that the "War on Cancer" is, largely, a fraud.’. The ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/PreventCancer/p16.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

EDTA Suppositories -- Another Validation Of Oral EDTA
... [Karl Note: Dr. Pauling, famous indeed, has his own very detailed answer to
heart disease -- it is NOT chelation therapy.]. Return To Top. EDTA Products. ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p20.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

Search For "Cholesterol" On Heart-Disease-Bypass-Surgery Web Site
... Similar pages. The Famous Pauling/Rath Heart Disease Therapy ... relying ... Similar
pages. Radiation Nullifies Pauling Cure ... Elevated ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/google5.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

Index of Articles About Heart Disease -- Chelation Therapy Online ...
... Percutaneous Transluminal Coronary Angioplasty / Stent. A Heart Valve
Tutorial. The Pauling Therapy Rejected. Heart Disease Statistics. ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/ articles/indexheartdisease.htm - 61k - Apr 16, 2003 - Cached - Similar pages

Dr. Domenic Berducci -- Covertly Hostile Enemy of Mankind
... September 28, 2002. What did Linus Pauling have to say on this and why is it
dangerous to ask someone this question? What is ORAL CHELATION anyway? ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p219.htm - 85k - Cached - Similar pages

 


 

Linus Pauling & Vitamin C
... Independent Consumers Guide The Pauling Therapy. "Now I ... Pauling, 1994
interview]. The Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease (1994). The Pauling ...
www.oralchelation.net/data/VitaminC/data20a.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

Vitamin C
... Use Separate Search Page or, Search Here. Navigation Help, Ingredients Technical,
Write To Karl Loren, Table Of Contents. ...1... Vitamin C & Linus Pauling, "Now I've ...
www.oralchelation.net/data/VitaminC/data20.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

Historical Diets
... of vitamin C daily.15 This idea that people require large amounts of vitamin C later
became a cornerstone of Nobel laureate Linus Pauling's recommendations for ...
www.oralchelation.net/data/HistoricalDiets/data10.htm - 37k - Cached - Similar pages

Bibliography and Book Reviews
... particular book offered by Amazon.com. This particular icon is linked
to a book by Dr. Linus Pauling. If you place your cursor over ...
www.oralchelation.net/heartdisease/Bibliography/ - 67k - Cached - Similar

 


 

 More coming.

Karl Loren


Dear Lionel,
My Life Glow Plus is high in many Pauling ingredients. But, my Super Life Glow surpasses most of his recommendations -- so can be used as a "pauling formula."

Metals are the secondary cause -- but free radicals are the primary cause of all degenerative disease.
Mental factors are always senior -- I have those covered too.
Read the first link.
 
Mental and spiritual factors are senior to physical in understanding and handling physical health problems.  April 9, 2003.  Here is the key to cure!  Pills, surgery, vitamins and love will all work far better when you understand the vital information on this page.

What, after all, is truth?  The age-old philosopher's puzzle is solved.  Is it too much to think that Karl would solve this one too?  April 9, 2003.  Seriously deep, vitally important, you cannot understand morality in this world without understanding what is truth?  You can have and follow a moral code, but only knowing what is truth allows you to UNDERSTAND morality.

The lovely Jean Ross, Friend of Goodwill, wife of Karl Loren, is usually the person who answers the phone when you call.  April 9, 2003.  Read about her and her important role in our mission.

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Dear Lionel,
Just don't take anything "for" cholesterol -- it is unnecessary.
Have you not read that article???
The cornerstone of the legitimization of oral chelation therapy, perfected by Karl Loren -- October 2, 2002.  Karl's exclusive proof that chelation therapy is valid -- death of bypass surgery and a finally an honest procedure.  Plaque exists where Karl says it is, not where your doctor says it is located.

The truth about the risk to your heart from high cholesterol levels -- October 2, 2002. This is the nail in the coffin of the cardiologist who makes false claims to put you on dangerous drugs.

The ultimate primer on free radicals -- the cause of all heart disease and cancer -- October 2, 2002.  Karl's lucid and thorough description of the source of disease that cannot be addressed by either drugs or surgery.

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Dear Lionel,

I have no distributors -- but would always welcome one.
I think we have shipped to SA, but many other countries are much more commonl. We ship all over the world.
Those ingredients you mention are OK, but there is much more science to my formula than to be replaced by almost random additions of stuff.
Fillings?  Bad news -- constant leak of mercury, asyou know,.
I will post your comments, and my replies.  If you wish, send photos or anything personal to make the page more interesting.
Regards,
Karl Loren

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