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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: Message to Karl Loren from the Chelation Therapy On Line Home Section
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Source: Oral Chelation Web Site
Contact_FirstName: Deanna
Contact_LastName: Varnhagen
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Dear Karl,
I've written to you many times in the past & I just LOVE your website! Being a
self employed personal fitness trainer I find that your site is probably the
most extensive, unbiased one with
high integrity. I refer your site to all of my clients as well as my family &
friends. Especially when it comes to MSM! People think I'm overboard on it but
when they try it they soon become hooked! I also spend alot of time volunteering
in the projects of Cleveland & have been spreading the news & some samples to
people I see on a regular basis. One man has had alot of relief from his asthma
& doesn't need to use his breathing machine as often. Another man, 83 yrs. old
who used to use a rascal to get around now just uses a cane. Whenever I bring
MSM around his face lights up! He (Moses) calls them his 'happy pills' because
his knee pain goes away & he can walk easily.
The Dream Center, (a non-profit christian org.) is actually based out there in
L.A. --- I don't remember if I had mentioned it to you in the past---Anyways,
the directors of the Cleveland D.C. are now taking it regularly for migrane
relief & just for good preventative medicine. Besides your website I find that
most christian health/medical sites promote MSM as well. Pat Robertson is a big
time MSM'r & so is Judy Lindberg McFarland, nutrition advisor. It really
frustrates me when I have a client or family member that checks with their dr.
about it & they've never heard about it! I've realized the
physician/pharmaceutical conspiracy for quite some time now & it's been a
passion of mine to help educate people that they do have a choice. People are in
such bondage; especially in the projects. The poor are the sickest, have the
worst healthcare, are less likely to research information or get second opinions
in important matters/diagnoses because of obstacles & other pressing issues,
worry more about having money to eat at all not how nutritious something is. Not
to mention lower immune systems because of lost hope & depression.
This is where prayer comes in. You have to pray when you see all of this
frequently or else you'd go crazy! You can't save the world & you can die
trying or you can try to educate, give people an alternative choice in the
natural & pray that God will heal them in the supernatural. We can only plant a
seed alot of times & trust that God will do it;-)
(I need to send this to you now & finish my comments & also questions to you in
a part 2 email. I'll be back soon;-)
God Bless you & your committed work!
Deanna
Dear Karl,
Here's Part 2 of my email to you. I wanted to thank you for your site as well as let you know that I will try to start purchasing my MSM from you. I know 45.00 for a small order isn't much money for many but with some of the other vitamins I buy as well I need to watch my monthly total. (I spend 12.99 for 180, 1000mg caps. a month locally. For your lowest bulk order, how many 1000mg caps would that compare to?)
I also have a few questions. I have a new client--only met once so far for an evaluation--& he revealed that he had smoked marijuanna, smoked ciggarrettes & drank alcohol for most of his adult life & just quit all of it only 2 weeks ago! Needless to say, he's going through withdrawls & the cravings are still there. I want to get him on a good supplement program. Someone gave him a brochure of several products for him to go on & they may be just fine but I told him about you, your research, etc. & he said he would just assume get them from me than his friend. he's 43, slim build, stressed from divorce 2 yrs. ago as well as the detox. stress & has mental/nervous problems. I feel confident with the MSM & a multi but want to be careful because he's on 3 different meds. One for high b.p. & 2 for depression/anxiety.
That's nothing compared to this next one! I want to try & help another client but feel hopeless as far as supplementation goes. He's 32, 5'8",340 lbs.! yes, not (240 but 340 lbs.) has had a heart attack 2 yrs., high b.p., ago & is now on a boatload of meds. One which is Coumadin! Just about everything under the sun can have a negative effect combined with it from what I've read. I'm even hesitant in the msm thinking he might get too much energy & over exert himself! and ofcourse, I had him check with his doc & he's never heard of it. The dr. just said to take a one a day vitamin & that's about it. ( his other meds are:accupril, aldactone, coreg, lasix, prevacid & dioxin. Whew!) I realize you cannot be held liable for giving any advice. I just want to be able to give my clients the safest, best possible reccommendations to improve their health & it's almost impossible to get that out of a regular physician, unfortunately.
Here's another one. Any nutrients for stopping hair pulling? I know msm makes it grow but anything for the compulsive behavior?
Thanks, Karl. I hope I didn't 'overstay' my welcome;-)
Take care & God Bless!!
Deanna
Dear Deanna,
Here and there, now and then, one of the less fortunate happens to find you as a friend.
What could be better!
You are a blessing walking through their lives. Let a bit of light and hope spread from your being there, into their lives.
On the caps? Your capsules are 1000 mg each. Mine are 500 mg each.
You are spending $12.00 for 180 caps, or 180 grams. You are paying $72 per KG at this rate.
One of my bags has 500 caps, 500 mg each, or 250 grams, at $30.00. This price is higher than you are paying because the cost of the capsule is substantial and I have twice as many capsules for 1000 mg. My cost, buying only one bag, at $30, is $120 per kg.
If you buy four of my bags, there is a 25% discount, or $90 for one kg.
It is still high because your capsules contain twice as much as mine.
If you buy bulk powder? Then one kg is $45, and if you get 5 kg, the cost drops to $100, or $20 per KG.
Obviously, the best way to go with MSM is to get the bulk powder, and to pool your purchase with others to get a better price with a slightly larger quantity.
The guy on meds for depression. I refuse to sell anything to any such person until they get off the psychiatric drug, and even then, I want them to "turn in" the "pusher doctor" to me. These anti-depressant drugs are extremely harmful.
I will not even advise such a person until he is off the psych drugs.
My only advice is "get off that drug."
You will always be welcome to write often.
But, I am very much convinced that a person can never get better once they start down the road of anti-depressant drugs. i am convinced that the only moral thing to do is to give the truth that I know: "Get off that drug. It is killing you. Nothing else will help you as long as you are on that drug!"
I enclose my company policy on anti-depressant drugs.
Regards,
Karl Loren
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