Vibrant Life Testimonial
QuackWatch is the special web page of a grimy psychiatrist who takes his pleasure in publishing false data about health matters. He is well known as a drug pusher -- recommending Prozac and other drugs as far superior to natural remedies. He is often quoted by the enemies of health. This man will, some day, pass from the scene, and the world will be a better place.
A gentlemen named Art Ocone found the false data on the QuackWatch web site about MSM, and got angry. He wrote the below letter to the QuackWatch Frauds, and sent a copy to me.
HERE is the truth about the amazing benefits of using MSM -- his truth flies in the face of that drug pusher at QuackWatch. MSM is available from Vibrant Life -- click here.
Karl Loren.
August 2, 2001
To QuackWatch,
This is in reference to the article on MSM written by a Mr. Lang dated June 9, 2000.
I am a 64 year old retiree with an education in chemistry. The subject article came to me by way of a friend to whom I had recommended MSM for joint aches.
I am absolutely astounded that someone who is a dietitian would make such a sweeping and ridiculous statement that MSM does not provide any health benefit whatsoever. The fact that doctors have attached their names to the article does not surprise me, as I have come to the sad conclusion that the AMA is the pusher for the drug lords: Merck, et. al..
Allow me to start with my own extraordinary experience with MSM. In the late 1980s, after moving to California from Minnesota, I developed an allergy to grass. Perhaps the allergy was always there and perhaps living in Minnesota didn't especially aggravate it, but after living several years in California, I lost my sense of smell completely. After going through several doctors and allergenists, the diagnosis was that the allergy was causing an inflammation, which in turn created the problem with my olfactory glands. According to the last doctor I went to, this was confirmed. His analysis was reached after giving me a small quantity of cortisone tablets to take, 8, 10, 12, I don't remember exactly. What I do remember was that my ability to smell returned within hours after taking my first or second tablet after years of not being able to smell the foulest odors. The sad part was that there was no safe medicine to take that would accomplish the same thing. Several prescriptions followed with no results. They even included a very popular nasal spray at the time that was supposed to have cortisone in it. Nothing worked.
I gave up with the doctors and began to investigate the wonderful world of natural supplements on my own. By this time it was 1994. I tried many things and some with scanty results. For example, 20,000 mg of V-C gave me momentary relief, perhaps an hour at the most when I could detect odors. Amino acid drinks, the kind that body builders use, also gave me very weak results. I was not expecting any effect from the drinks. I was taking the amino acids for other dietary reasons so the effect, although slight, surprised me. I tried flavanoids, bromelain and others, and in the end I gave up, and then in May of 1999.................
I was sitting in the lobby of my health club and picked the typical free literature found in such places, and in one, a tabloid type periodical, was an article on MSM, extolling its wonders. My eyes immediately went to the paragraph on allergies and then I saw "anti-inflammatory". I immediately left my club and went home to go on the Internet and was amazed to find so much information on this supplement. I ordered a pound of powder and a jar of capsules from puremsm.com.
AFTER OVER 10 YEARS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO SMELL SAVORY FOODS AND ENJOY THE PERFUMES OF NATURE, MY OLFACTORIES WERE BACK IN ACTION ONLY 30 MINUTES AFTER TAKING 6 GRAMS OF MSM. MY OLFACTORIES ARE NOW FUNCTIONING, AS THEY WERE WHEN I WAS A YOUNGSTER. THAT WAS OVER 2 YEARS AGO, AND SINCE THEN I HAVE NOT MISSED A DAY OF TAKING THIS WONDERFUL SUPPLEMENT AND MY ABILITY TO SMELL GARLIC, PERFUME, FLOWERS AND EVEN GRASS HAS BEEN UNINTERRUPED!!! TELL ME AGAIN THAT MSM HAS NO BENEFITS TO HUMANS!!! WHO IS THIS GUY LANG AND IS HE REALLY A DIETITIAN???????? GO AWAY LITTLE BOY AND DON'T BOTHER ME WITH SUCH BUNK.
Allow me to correct one fact in the last paragraph. I did interrupt my dosage of MSM on purpose to see what would happen. I maintained my ability to smell for 2 days after the last dose and then it was gone just as it was before I began taking MSM. This may not be heavy duty research and testing but it’s a helluva lot more than anything I have seen from doctors who pooh pooh it.
Now let me tell you about 2 friends in my golf foursome. These two both had joint problems. I encouraged both to try MSM based on the phenomenal experience of Charles Coburn.
Norman had terrible pains in his shoulder which would not allow him to get a good nights sleep. He had the pains for years. The pain was gone after only one day of taking 5 grams of MSM. He got a second benefit. He told me that his fingers were no longer completely mobile, that he had difficulty closing his fist. That problem is gone.
When Phil heard about the latter benefit Norm got from MSM, Phil tried it. He could not close his fist. He had trouble holding onto a pencil. Now, after taking the MSM, he brags about being able to pick up a dime!!!!!!!!!
I DARE YOU TO TELL PHIL L PIRRO THAT MSM HAS BROUGHT HIM NO BENEFIT!
The additional benefits I have personally gotten from MSM:
· NO MORE EXCRUCIATING NIGHT CRAMPS IN MY CALVES AND HAMSTRINGS, CRAMPS THAT WOULD SEND ME SCREAMING FOR HELP!
· NO MORE SORENESS AND PAIN IN MY TENDONS AND LIGAMENTS IN MY WRISTS AND ARMS.
· NO MORE BURSITIS WHICH RUNS IN MY FAMILY. A GENETIC THING AND ITS GONE!!!!!!!!!
· THE VIRTUAL ELIMINATION OF MY 25 YEAR BACK PROBLEM.
Referring to the latter, I injured my back seriously in a lifting accident at home over 25 years ago. Today, I work as a cart attendant and range picker at a private golf course. Anyone who knows anything about this job, will appreciate the stress and strain this puts on ones back. Although I credit yoga to a large degree for keeping my back in shape, I know that the MSM is playing a key role in keeping it healthy. I am the oldest by far in this section of employees and the one with the healthiest back.
Have you people not heard of what wonders MSM has done for Charles Coburn?? Have you not seen his hands, so contorted and twisted from arthritis???????
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?????
How sad the AMA continues to find stupid excuses for not recommending MSM….how self-serving and evil.
I will forever be grateful to the pioneers and researchers for bringing this supplement to the masses and so will I forever despise the AMA and the likes of the authors of the deceitful article.
I have now increased my intake of MSM to 15 grams per day. I put the dosage in a quart of drinking water and consume it before noon.
HALLELEUIA!!!!!!! I CAN SMELL THE COFFEE.
Art
PS: Judging from your advisory board, this is indeed a site for quacks.
[Write to him if you wish. Click below]
Art Ocone [ ocone@juno.com ]
Another message from Art arrived later on the same date -- August 2, 2001:
Karl,
My first order to you will come in a month or so. I have less than 1 pound left. My order size will only be 5 kilos. This should be about a one year supply for me. I wish I were industrious enough to distribute. Your prices are certainly attractive enough. But, alas, I'm just a user. It turns out however, that I give away just about half of what I buy.
I have a friend, a single parent of 5, who has had a terrible bout with a thyroid problem. I tried to talk her into trying MSM before giving into radiation treatment. But she was someone who would roll her eyes whenever I mentioned supplements. After the treatment, she looked and felt like a cadaver. She was so weak and ill for weeks from this treatment, that she finally agreed to try the MSM. The effect was immediate. I started her out on 5 grams with breakfast and another 5 at lunch. None beyond that time of day. She began feeling better immediately, and gradually over a 2 week period was her old self again.
Yesterday, she told me she had trouble sleeping the last few nights and so I queried her to double check the dosage she was taking. For one reason or another, she became confused and took double the dosage, 20 grams instead of 10, and to make matters worse she forgot to take her lunch time dose the day before yesterday and so took it with the evening meal, something which I cautioned her on, but she forgot. Although, she couldn't get a good nites sleep, she was fine and not tired the next day. She told me that she felt differently. That she was a bit edgy with alot of energy and no way to release it. She works at Dillards department store. She found her outlet by re-arranging the entire Men's and Boy's Department! She said it looked terrific when she got through!!. I laughed and told her it was the MSM that gave her all the energy and that she had to back off to 10 grams per day. I think now that she is feeling normal again, she could probably do well with just 6 grams per day. Do you have an opinion?
By the way, she is no longer rolling her eyes at the mention of supplements.
Art
Dear Art,
Give the following data to your friend:
Let me take a minute of your time to mention that I first got interested in the "vitamin business" when I went to a lecture about parasites -- and how just about everyone's body was filled with them. I saw this gross pictures of tapeworms that were 10 feet long -- having been "expelled" from the body. Ugh!
The lecture urged me to buy this herbal combination which would kill or loosen the grip of these parasites -- I was convinced.
It is not often that you will spend hours on your hands and knees, peering into the toilet, looking for wiggling things! I did. I never found a wiggling thing. But, the herbs certainly did cause loose bowels and some stomach rumbling.
I mention this because the worst thing a vitamin can do for you is "nothing" which you can observe. You swallow this pill -- you don't perceive anything happening. It then devolves back onto faith or technical knowledge. I take CoQ10 for that reason. I personally don't feel any different when I take it, but I believe from my reading of the literature that it is a very important nutrient to take.
So, I have been a believer in "detoxification" for many years, and also a believer that any effect I can observe is better than no effect observed -- and I view the "value" of that effect as separate from whether or not there was any effect.
In other words, when I experience some effect on my body (a rash, for instance) I realize, first and foremost, that there is an effect there. I withhold judgment as to whether that effect is good or bad.
Then, I make a separate judgment on the goodness or badness of the effect.
Since I believe so strongly on the value of detoxification, I am prone to regard any effect that COULD be a detox effect as a good effect.
You understand that this is an inclination, not science.
So, my personal experience with MSM.
First, I resisted taking it for a couple years after I heard about it. The stuff I heard sounded too good to be true, so I just simply didn't believe it and didn't buy any or try any.
Then, I heard a story one more time and it was convenient to buy a small bottle of capsules -- and I gave it a try. These were 500 mg capsules of MSM only -- no additives.
Now, another inclination I have, not necessarily good, is that "more is always better." So, I started with about 4 of those capsules. I took them around noon of that day -- about 2 years ago.
Well, I quickly noticed that I had this tremendous increase in energy. After a few hours I found that it was hard to walk -- I felt like running. I was running up the stairs and singing to myself. I found it hard to believe that MSM could do this, but MSM was the only new thing I was using.
That night I couldn't get to sleep. I was wide awake, full of energy and finally gave up sleeping and worked most of the night on my computer tasks.
I didn't think that level of energy could last, but I was willing to try. I took fewer capsules the next day, and still had that incredible level of energy -- but I was dragging a bit at the same time.
No sleep that night.
So, by the next day I took my 2 capsules in the morning -- no more during the day. I still felt great, and now I managed to get a full night's sleep.
Amazingly, I found that my dreams were in Technicolor and I slept very soundly, I had not had trouble getting to sleep before, but now it was a decidedly nicer sleep.
This high energy, good sleep "thing" lasted several more days -- the effect winding down -- as I took increasing doses of MSM to see if I could maintain that feeling.
After a couple weeks I was taking about 12 capsules per day (6 grams) and there was no more energy effect -- I was sleeping very soundly however.
Then, that fateful day I "twigged" on the cause of the high energy.
I was having nothing more than a "drug high." I became convinced that this was true.
I had never, in my whole life, used any "street drugs" but I had some normal amount of medical drugs and even weight-loss "pills." I analyzed my reactions to those MSM capsules and decided that I had a drug high -- a very rapid detoxification at a light enough level that the toxins coming out of my cells were not enough to cause sleepy or tired feelings.
Now that those toxins were removed, I was probably into a period where the detoxification, if any, would be slower and now so dramatic.
That was very much the case.
It was about 5 weeks after my first taking of MSM that I started getting a rash.
The first little "bump" was not anything to even notice -- it was just a small red bump on my chest -- with an itch like a small mosquito bite.
Then, within a few days, that one bump got larger, itched a lot, and there were many other small bumps.
I'm sorry if this is a bit gross, but you may have this happen to you and you should know.
Those bumps became very uncomfortable -- itchy! I would, naturally, scratch them. When I did that, there was blood. It wasn't running blood, just a little blood where the "scab" had been. These were not "regular scabs" either -- just little red bumps that itched. If you scratch them, there is blood.
Well, that itchy feeling became very uncomfortable -- but by now I knew that I was in a full detoxification mode and I was willing to have the discomfort in favor of the detoxification.
But I looked for ways to ease the itch! Skin lotion wouldn't help. Finally, I found MSM lotion and that took the itch away immediately. The itch, however, would only go away for an hour or two.
So, this rash on my chest went on for some months -- getting bigger and bigger bumps, spreading over more and more of my chest.
Then it started to clear up. Hurray! I thought.
But, then I started "feeling" bumps (itchy places) on my back.
Yes, the rash then transferred to my back. About this time I went to Germany for a 10 day trip and I carried lots of MSM with me -- to continue the detox process. I also carried MSM lotion with me to ease the itch.
I spent lots of time standing up against doors and corners to rub my back against the corner or the door -- to reach parts of my itchy back I couldn't reach with my hands.
Then, the rash started to clear from my back -- my chest was completely clear -- but move to my buttocks and groin!
If your first experience with a rash is in your groin, you probably won't want to tell anyone -- and you may want to hide from your spouse. I've never had venereal disease, but I suppose it looks like that rash in some advanced stage.
If you want uncomfortable itchy, try it in your groin.
Well, fortunately, that didn't last too long, but it then spread to my arms and legs.
In total this took 9 months. You can hardly believe, by now, that anyone would go through this -- but I so strongly believe in the value of detoxification that I did go through it and I would encourage you to do the same.
All during that time I was taking MSM in both capsules and loose powder -- a total of about 10 to 15 grams per day.
After those nine months the rash was all gone -- I've been free of ANY uncomfortable effects of MSM since then.
I suppose I attained pain relief during that time, too, but it didn't rise to much of a level of observation -- so dramatic was the rash.
Now, with no rash to occupy my mind, I find that MSM gives me very quick relief from back pain.
I often forget to take the stuff -- and will sometimes go for a few days without taking any.
Then, for whatever reason, I awake in the morning with a stiff neck, or painful back. I now rush to my MSM container and take a heaping teaspoonful == washing it down with water.
I will often find the pain gone within an hour or so. In earlier years a back pain, or a stiff neck would seem to stay with me until I could go to bed that night.
So, MSM is a permanent part of my life -- I take 10 to 20 grams per day, don't always remember, but ALWAYS remember when I have some pain somewhere.
When I started to sell this stuff, particularly in bulk form, I expected EVERYONE to go through this detoxification process. I have been amazed at how few people have the same experience I had.
The great majority of my customers who tell me about their experience talk about immediate pain relief from arthritis, etc.
I estimate that only about 10% report a rash, and even fewer report to me the "drug high" reaction I had for the first week.
So, you are most likely in the "majority" of people and would find a dramatic detoxification not very likely.
I am convinced that MSM continues its detoxification process at a low level as long as you take it -- making individual cell walls more permeable -- so that the cell can more easily get rid of garbage and absorb nutrients.
I encourage you to give MSM a chance to change your life.
Karl Loren
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