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Don

Shawnee Indian

Vibrant Life Testimonial

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Write To Don -- The address is current and he will reply

kahkahwee@charter.net


Here is an interesting "prospective" testimonial.  You can follow this whole procedure from the very beginning.

The most recent addition, November 21, 2007, is HERE;

Don (his letters below) sent me a very typical inquiry about oral chelation.  I have reproduced his first message, my reply, and all the subsequent messages with their dates.  This was first published here before Don had even decided whether or not to purchase Vibrant Life oral chelation.  As of THIS writing (February 16, 1999) he has not ordered anything from us.  I will publish here the final results -- whether or not he buys!  As he continues to write more of this story, I'll publish. Don has done very well and writes to me regularly. His message for 2007 is HERE. I replied to him HERE with news of dramatic import to my family.

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In due course I expect he will either buy, or not buy.  If he does not buy, and is willing to share his reasons, I'll publish them here.  If he does buy, I then expect to share what happens here.  Day by Day!

The amazing action here is that you are watching this as it happens.

Thus, this page is first published on February 16, 1999.   Each message thereafter is dated.  Don has agreed to allow me to include his eMail address so that, at any point, you can send him a message and check out the authenticity of these messages.

In other words this is a really real deal!

All my published testimonials are REAL, but only a few of them include names and address you can check on, and there have never been any where you could see what happens AS IT HAPPENS.  In other words, HERE is a story where I don't know the outcome.  I've never known anyone to publish a testimonial of this type.

Isn't that an interesting testimonial?  It is not selected from among the "safe" stories where I already know the outcome -- it is laid out here before the person has even started taking Life Glow.  If you read this on  February 20th, and on March 20th you find the story has been deleted, you would suspect that this stuff didn't work for him.  But, if you read this on February 20th, and you send him an eMail -- he replies -- you are convinced that he is real -- then on March 20th, the story says something good!!  Well?  You see that many testimonials on the web ARE fake!  Mine are not!  But, how are you going to tell?

You get a testimonial like this -- where there is a story started BEFORE the final outcome is known, and you get a story where you can verify the statements because someone's eMail address is included.

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So, you follow this from minute to minute -- to see what happens.

This is the type of testimonial I most like to publish.  I'll be asking my prospective testimonial people, from now on, to allow me to include their eMail address so you can verify what I write here!

Karl


From Don, February 15, 1999

Dear Karl,

Just found the site.

I was a recipient of the Nutralife mailing. [Click to read Karl's analysis of the fraudulent product called "Nutralife oral chelation."]

As a researcher, I like to ask questions.

I was railroaded into a triple coronary by-pass almost four years ago, in spite of leading an active athletic lifestyle. I am still athletic. I spent the first 14 months after surgery in a research program ingesting 2-3,000 mg of niacin, 25,000 mg beta-carotene, 2,000 mg vitamin C and 800 units of E.

I left that program and am currently using supplements from Standard Labs in Palmyra, Wisconsin.

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My lipid profile is checked semi-annually and my numbers look good especially from someone who refuses Zocor etc.  (See footnote for Zocor -- F1)

The Standard labs formulas keep my profile very close to the mega-vitamin protocol.

However, I have been curious about the chelation approach (especially IV). I am just now checking out the oral idea.

I always ate "healthy" even before the surgery. Now I have completely eliminated ALL refined sugars, flours, rice, grains and corn as well as diary and hydrogenated oils from my diet.

I am wondering whether I need the chelation therapy and if so for how long?

Would appreciate your answer.

Don

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kahkahwee@worldnet.att.net  


February 15, 1999, from Karl Loren

Dear Don,

Thanks for your message.

I'd love to include your question and background on my FAQ page, but am getting particular now, to include mostly only people also willing to have their eMail address included.

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Let me know.

I would continue to publish whatever exchange you and I might have -- to let the world know how we both come out on this!

Well done on those life-style changes.

Niacin -- fabulous stuff. I've written a lot about it. I have a formula with niacin where you CAN get the niacin flush every day!! Even with the same dose! How often did you get the flush? If you were taking niacinamide, you got the wrong stuff!

Your vitamin C intake is quite modest compared to my formula at 4,500 per day.  [Click Here to read the ingredients in Life Glow Plus.]

I don't recall the equivalence between IU and MG for beta Carotene, but my formula gets you 15,000 IU of Vitamin A AND 25,000 IU of beta carotene.

I would probably not call your formula "mega dose," compared to mine! But, it is far higher than most people take.

You should read about how toxic metals in your body increase the action of free radicals.  [Click Here to review Karl's data.]

Probably none of the things you are taking REMOVE toxic metals, even though many of them neutralize free radicals.

It is one thing to neutralize free radicals, it is quite another to remove their source!

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I/V chelation removes toxic metals!

The cysteine in my formula removes toxic metals.

That fraudulent Nutralife brochure claims that "oral EDTA" is helpful -- it is not. EDTA is a marvel when used with I/V chelation -- no good orally.

[Karl Note:  When the above paragraph was written, I strongly believed that oral EDTA was worthless -- based on the claim by Elmer Cranton, among others.  However, I changed my position on this -- drastically -- and there is a FULL explanation of the reasons for this change HERE.]

Niacin does not remove toxic metals, nor do many other things.

I think everyone needs to get rid of toxic metals.

Do you think you might have some in you?

Let me know.

Karl


From Don, February 15, 1999

Dear Karl,

Thanks for your quick reply.

I don't usually let me e-mail address go out but, what the hell. Go for it.

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Perhaps it will help someone. 

I haven't read all of your material but it sounds as though you and I have traveled similar paths.

I am Shawnee and I have, for the most part, reverted to my ancestors ways of eating. I find that venison and other wild game is far more satisfying and filling for a longer period of time than "white-man's" food. [F2 for information about the Shawnee]

I prepare my own jerky and I consume a great deal of nuts and berries as well as certain vegetables.

As for Toxic metals? Who knows?  Could be.

As a child I had many teeth filled with silver/mercury. I am also a painter and no doubt I have come in contact with many toxic metals in artist's pigments.

To regress, I started cleansing myself using a Chinese herbal formula to cleanse the colon. This consisted of psyllium and water, then a combination of herbs along with more psyllium and water. It took about six weeks and I have done it on a semi-annual basis.

I came to herbs naturally. As a small boy I would often follow my grandmother and great grandmother as they would gather various herbs for different purposes.

Today I still prefer to wildcraft my own concoctions. I store dried herbs picked at the peak (when the Creator tells me it is time ).

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I also make very powerful tinctures for tribal members and family. I don't advertise or take money because I have no patience with government jackasses.

I will read what you have to say about the American Heart Association. I learned that their trained dieticians are very mistaken!!

I studied every bit of information they supplied. I found much error.

Then I sought my own way. I constantly tell my people to stop relying upon the official reports and seek true knowledge. I urge them to hone their common sense and avoid seeking the "magic bullet" that doesn't exist.

If you would be well in the 20th Century you will have to work for it. In most cases the old truth is there if you will seek it.

Consider chelation. The technology was perfected in 1893!!!

It was used by doctors in the twenties. But today you can make more money doing a by-pass.

Don

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To which I replied:

Dear Don,
 
I've published your messages at:
 
http://www.oralchelation.com/testimonial/test23.htm
 
Let me know what you think.
 
As you can see, I am committed.
 
If you request, I'll delete the whole page.
 
As you offer more stuff, I'll publish -- even if you decide not to buy, or if you buy even if you get poor results.
 
How's that for bold!
 
Regards,

Karl Loren

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Don commented back:

Dear Karl,

I find it kind of strange to read my own words on your site. When I have time I shall send you more information. I am still absorbing information regarding the chelation idea. I have known about IV chelation for years. It was not available to me for monetary considerations. Those considerations are still with me, unfortunately.

However, the right things always work out. I will be back in touch.

Tecumseh's (F3) admonition or at least the statements attributed to him are words to live by.

Thank you.

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Don


To which Karl replied:

Dear Don,

It's like looking the mirror the first time.

It's strange seeing "you" in there.

You've probably forgotten your first curiosity on that.

You may have seen a dog bark at his reflection?

I read my own stuff with pleasant detachment.

I look forward to more information.

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In terms of what would help others, would be your diet/exercise, medical stuff, experience with bypass (in detail).

When and as you buy some of our oral chelation, then a daily (or weekly) diary would be wonderful for you, me and all!

I look forward to hearing from you.

Karl Loren


Received on February 17, 1999

Dear Karl,

My by-pass was sudden and unexpected.

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As I said I have always been physically active. I started body-building when I was 15 and became familiar with all sorts of supplements early on.

I never got so deep into the body building phase that I ever thought of competition. However, I had friends and relatives who did. Some of them won big titles. Personally, I was more conscious of feeling good and being able to do things with my body.

That was enough for me. By 1984 I had attained my goal.  I was within three pounds of Lou Ferrigno. At 6'4" 297 pounds I was quite large and strong. In a medical check-up my doctor was ecstatic. [Picture is of Lou -- click to go to the source page -- Don's picture yet to come!]

I had had some earlier health problems in the 60's with a stomach ulcer, it perforated and I narrowly missed having my stomach cut out. I recovered very well and became more determined to keep my health strong. Aside from that episode I had enjoyed good health.

In 1985 something happened that probably was the beginning of trouble. I became suddenly very ill and was diagnosed with mononucleosis. Unusual for a 42 year old man. I began to experience hives and maddening itching. At the same time my dog died of a very rare form of cancer. The post-mortem revealed that he had suffered miserably. The Veterinary School in one of our Universities did the autopsy and then sent me a questionnaire. They asked me if I had been using a product called "Roundup" an herbicide.  [Click to review the manufacturers description of this product.]

My response was "Yes".

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During this time I was becoming sicker and no one in the medical field seemed to have an answer. I was checked for virtually any disease you can imagine. At that stage in my life, I had authored two of my three books on watercolor technique and thankfully, I could handle the medical bills.

No answers were forthcoming. Finally a doctor who was maligned by his peers came to my rescue. Dr. Orian Truss treated me for three years. [Click here to read about Dr. Truss and his fame in this area.]  During that period I consumed only 80 grams of carbohydrates a day. I could not eat anything that had been fermented, nor could I eat mushrooms or anything that had any contact with yeast. I ate fresh vegetables and fruits that had been peeled as well as fresh meat, fowl, etc.

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My weight plummeted finally reaching 180 lbs. My skin pigmentation fluctuated from sickly yellow to a "dead-fish" gray/white. Some of the medications made me so photosensitive that I would lose my sight in the sun.

My strength was sapped but in spite of that fact, I continued to train in karate.

During this period of sickness I read every thing I could find about related diseases, blood profiles, protein diets, etc. I read treasures and trash, looking for clues. My reason for this was that I had experienced a lot of medical bullshit at this point. The doctor who helped me was accused of being a money grubbing quack. However, his examination and treatment was far more thorough than his critics and his cost was 1/3 theirs!!

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Makes you wonder just who is the quack? Eventually I began to stabilize. I wanted to get off any medications and I began to go back to herbal treatments.

My first attempt was Chinese herbal medicine and a thorough colon cleanse.

I did it gradually in order to avoid a serious reaction that could have triggered asthma. My doctor was hesitant to see me try this approach. It worked out very well. My skin tone began to stabilize but my once thick head of black hair had turned nearly white and had thinned considerably.

In 1988 I left the doctor's care and began to treat myself. I began to strengthen my thymus and to utilize various supplements. Some good some useless. There was a lot of trial and error. However, considering my past experiences I figured that I was better off doing it my way. On my parting the doctor had confided that he hadn't really expected me to survive my sickness. In his medical record he had concluded that I had been poisoned by the Roundup just like my dog but I had escaped the cancer but had been ravaged by Candida overgrowth with a severely compromised immune system.

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I changed my diet by adding a few of the forbidden things. I really indulged my taste for chocolate and ice-cream as well as other sugar based goodies. I kept this behavior up for a few years basically enjoying a few things but still training seriously in karate.

[Karl:  Dear reader, you are witnessing true confessions!  For MY diet recommendation, click here.]

Along about 1993 I began to realize that white sugar was killing my stamina. I had been eating a healthy diet of grain cereals (Post Raisin Bran) with milk, and fresh fruit. I found that my stamina was not good when I would train early in the morning. I tried an experiment I changed breakfast foods eliminating all refined sugars and my stamina soared!!

(to be continued)

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Don


Dear Don,

This writing stuff can become addictive!

Now, you know, the job of an author is not just to write, but to get people to read.

The job is not then over, but further to get them to change their behavior -- at least that's my purpose.

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Now, you as an artist!  I hadn't much thought about that.  Obviously as an artist you must paint.  But, as above, you must go further and get people to look (and to buy).  Do you have any further purpose to that art?

Now, let's get on with this.

The degree of medical detail and the clarity of your writing will appeal to many people -- we just need to get them to come look!

Your story is fascinating, but there are two other things going on here.

First a little story.  I was given the original of this story on the condition that I not publish it, so I have to change it a lot to be comfortable in putting it here.  So, this story is changed, but VERY TRUE!  I'll call him "John" whose story this is.

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We sell this Super Life Glow stuff -- the most expensive vitamin on planet earth.  One of the ingredients is niacin (Vitamin B3).  It is often true that when you take niacin for the first time you get what is called the "niacin flush."  That flush is very therapeutic but if you don't know it's coming, you can get terribly worried.  (I've written extensively about this elsewhere -- click here to review.)

But, after a couple days on any particular dosage of niacin, you no longer get that flush.  I've taken as much as 5,000 mg of niacin per day with no flush!

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So the standard technology on niacin, well known by most nutritionists, if not by doctors, is that niacin causes a flush, but that the flush does not reappear after a few days at the same dosage.  If you increase the dosage, you get the flush.  Then, after a few more days -- no flush.

Now, comes along Super Life Glow.  I, and others, have had the niacin flush taking Super Life Glow for months -- day after day!  No one has ever reported this in any literature.  I think I've created a formula that does something that no one has ever thought possible.

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Then he sent me a letter complaining about the vitamins -- causing this terrible flush.

My first sentence back to him was:  "John, enjoy the flush!  It's great for you!"

Of course I went on to explain in detail and to publish even MORE about the niacin flush in these web pages.  He then called and told me this further story, about how he was talking to his brother, an actual Medical Doctor, and had told him about the flush -- before getting my letter.

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He told me that his brother (MD!) told him to stop taking this stuff -- that the flush was dangerous, etc. 

When he got my letter he showed it to his brother.  Now, I'll give the guy credit -- he read my stuff about niacin.  The really amazing thing is that his brother is now taking  Super Life Glow too!

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So, the point here is that I respond very vigorously to letters and eMail that I receive and I don't hold back.  My answers are starting to get passed around.

I publish many of these -- when the author says it's OK, and when the details are interesting.  You will NOT find this type of give-and-take anywhere else in literature that I've ever seen.

When you add to that the instantaneous nature of the Internet, and eMail, and realize that you (Don) wrote your eMail to me on Wednesday, February 17th, and on that same day YOUR story is published on the Internet for the whole world to read -- you get an idea of the power of this technique.

Now, you see, the job of an artist OR an author is to get people to look or read.

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Do you, Don, have a bit of an incentive to suggest to your friends that they come to THIS web page to read this fascinating exchange between two people?  I now expect you to take personal responsibility for the number of visitors who come to this web page.  I will be featuring this page in the next edition of  The Wednesday Letter, to be published Tuesday night, March 2nd to several hundred subscribers.  You (Don) are already a subscriber, but other readers can become subscribers to that Wednesday Letter by clicking here.

Now, the other point.

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You can't possibly reveal that you are an artist without sending me a couple of your works to be published HERE.

Yes, your public now demands.  The image to the left is awaiting your contribution!

I am, by golly, now installing a "hit counter" at the bottom of the page so that both you and I can keep track of the number of people who visit THIS page.

I've done a bit more research on some of the items you mentioned in your letter and got them inserted amongst your words.

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I look forward to your next message.

Sincerely,

Karl Loren


Don wrote to me on February 20, 1999

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Dear Karl,

I kinda feel like I'm writing installments for a soap opera! My personal criticism is that this may be somewhat rambling since I am writing or recounting off the top of my head. I am more accustomed these days to writing research reports and I feel like I'm cheating since there is an absence of footnotes and bibliography.

I listened to your tape last night...thank you. You sound like a mild version of me! Perhaps I'll let loose with some of my feelings about these folks you mention in your tape!

Right now back to my story.....

I was talking about sweets. . . chocolate in particular. I suppose I was working off the belief that my physical activity (exercise) was taking care of my indulgence of ice-cream and brownies for a late night snack. I was also a chocaholic! If that had been the ONLY sugar maybe it wouldn't have been so bad. Later I would come face to face with the facts of hidden sugars in modern diets.

I went for several years training hard in karate, sweating bucketsful three times a day. I learned that removing the sugar from my morning meal meant more stamina. The increase was dramatic.

[Click on the image to read about his group]

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Oyama Karate

In 1994 I started having a nagging pain in my back at various times. I thought it was a pulled muscle. The pain did not occur during physical stress, it would appear at rest.

Consequently I did not associate it with a cardiac problem. I should explain about my training program. As I mentioned earlier I had become a rather large man who was accustomed to intensive weight training. I got sick and began to lose size.

In 1985 I had re-entered the world of the martial arts largely because of my son's interest. I had been trained in certain special skills during the Vietnam conflict. I was one of the few who did not go "in country." After that period I thought I had left that part of my life behind.

I began training with my son and today I am still with World Oyama Karate.

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We have a very rigorous full contact style with a heavy emphasis upon dedicated non stop training sessions. My stamina was boundless and I would take 3-4 flights of stairs two steps at a time and arrive at the top with very little change in breath pattern. Even though I didn't train for it I could run on a sandy beach in and out of the water for 2-3 miles and not drop dead with exhaustion.

With this pattern in mind I suddenly found myself out of breath just walking up a slight grade. I decided to go to a medical doctor. Given my age he decided to test me on a tread mill. I ran the mill out. (The mill was on a 13 minute timer.) Toward the end I began to feel a small cramp in my back. Basically I passed with flying colors. The doctor was still suspicious. I had trained for two hours that morning before the treadmill test.

I was scheduled for another series the following week. That weekend I participated in a promotion at our dojo and fought two or three candidates in order for them to qualify for promotion. I wasn't really on top of my form but I managed to do all right.

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The following Tuesday I was scheduled for a Thallium test. This involves fasting, an IV with a nuclear isotope, a treadmill, and extensive picture of the heart. Two days later the hospital was declaring me an emergency and had my wife drive me to the hospital. That was a Wednesday morning. My family was told that I was in imminent danger of fatal heart attack. The family was stunned. Even the surgical team was skeptical . I remember the remark, as I was going under, "Look at this man's body, he's a trained athlete, he shouldn't be here having this surgery." I was feeling very bad and very weak and I trusted the doctors. The verdict was that I had three major arteries blocked one at 95%, one at 90% and one about 85%. I recovered very quickly from the surgery. In 6 weeks I was back at the dojo. The doctors put in extra wire in my sternum since they knew of my activity. Before I was dismissed from the hospital I had to attend their "nutrition" classes. I listened, took notes and then did what probably no one expected. I asked questions and began to read all the data I could find on the material presented. What I found angered me.

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I was told how to eat " heart healthy". I was told to use "Healthy Choice" products. You should see the arrogant letter I received from Con-Agra when I dared ask them about Transfatty acids in their products. Since this had happened to me I dug deeply into every type of data source I could find. After all this was MY LIFE! I damned sure wasn't going to give it up without a fight!!

It is important to understand that I had been eating what was considered a very healthy diet. I was exercising, I was not a smoker and yet this happened to me. I volunteered for a lipid study at a leading Medical Center. I learned volumes.

I learned about hidden sugar. I learned that some researchers have found a causal link between refined sugar and high cholesterol.

Get a book entitled "Sugar Busters". This information was being borne out in the research center. I remained in that program 14 months. Earlier I mis-stated when I described the beta-carotene dosage..it was 25,000 IU.   However, I found that my night vision responded better to 25,000 IU of Vitamin A. On beta carotene I just turned orange!

Today my diet is a refinement of my old diet. I use no dairy, no grains including corn. I avoid potatoes. I eat very few beans. No vinegar.

I do eat all kinds of meat. However, regarding meat, my mainstay is privately produced beef. I know what my beef had to eat. I know there are no steroids, no antibiotics, and no "kitty-litter" in his/her diet.

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Perhaps I should explain "kitty litter". This is what cattlemen in our area call the commercial food made available for most beef cattle and pork. This is made from gathering the diseased dead chicken bodies, dead cattle and probably assorted road kill, mixing it with manure and cooking it in vats.

This product is then ground into pellets and fed to most cattle in America.

It only costs $20. per ton. My beef costs $300 per ton per year to feed.

Get the picture? YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT...so we say. I also use a lot of wild game. I make use of natural animal fat, eggs, pure maple syrup once a week in moderation, nuts, raisins, dried berries (I pick and dry myself) as well as fresh berries, fruits and vegetables. I strive to eat at least 1/3 of my food daily in a raw form.

I avoid alcohol except an occasional shot of Jose Cuervo (straight) or 20 yr old single malt scotch.

The alcohol intake may consist of a shot every six months.

Beverages consist of natural fruit juices, green tea and mostly filtered water. I drink at least 1 gallon per day of filtered water. I also have a filter on my shower to filter out the chlorine. I use saw palmetto daily as well as a product called organic minerals, cardio plus and cata-plexB (these three from Standard Labs, Palmyra Wisc. must be dispensed by health care practitioner)

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Chlorine is devastating to the thyroid and must be avoided. If a person is interested in a diet like mine they may wish to read a book by Ray Audette entitled NEANDERTHIN. It is available online from the Paleolithic Press for about $12.95.

Audette writes about some of the things I found in my research. For example, the federal government has been keeping tabs on my people's dietary habits since 1794. The high protein diet has been a mainstay of treatment for uncontrollable diabetics since the early part of this century. John's Hopkins has used it for years although they seem ashamed to admit it.

People on indigenous diets don't seem to suffer modern man's ills. Grains and dairy seem to be a major factor along with refined sugars in modern disease.

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I am currently exploring the use of more wild vegetables such as wild rice from the Great Lakes People, Cattail, acorn flour, and local plants that I gather. For me, it seems that I just don't tolerate man's meddling in my food chain.

If it has been manufactured or if it has to be cooked to be rendered edible I avoid it. Once in a while I will try some "forbidden" food. It usually ma kes me sick, my stomach will bloat and often I will itch. Corn or any product derived from it will give me joint pain and arthritic symptoms. It does this for most everyone else. The mound builders were very arthritic because corn was a mainstay. Hunter gatherers didn't suffer from this condition, nor did they have tooth decay to a large degree. ( I found this data while doing research for my doctoral dissertation, later I also found it in Audette's writings.)

These incidents serve to remind me that these non-foods (that is what I call them ) are no good for me. I have tried various dietary styles. I even tried being a Vegan. Right now my course seems to be best for me. If my blood profiles change, I'll attempt to make the necessary changes to keep good lipid profiles.

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It is with this background that I came seeking info concerning chelation. I have a doctor down the road who does IV chelation. I talked with his office yesterday.

Once I have more information I shall make a decision. Your product seems to be very plausible. Currently, I will have to make some financial adjustments in order to go "oral" or "IV". I think I need to consider it, considering my past profile.

I am of the firm belief that healing is in the blood. When circulation breaks down, disease begins.

One final thought.

Have you done research on the theory that high doses of certain vitamins can actually cause a deficiency in other vitamins.

For example, Vitamin E in natural form has a long chain molecular form.

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Many of the tocopherols used in some products are "short chain" varieties that require assimilation of additional materials the body must supply in order to make the short chain of any value. Also there are some statements that Vit. C (ascorbic acid) can cause copper deficiencies when "C" is used in large doses over a period of time.

Also, I'm sure you are familiar with the charge that most B complexes are made from activated sewer sludge.

The point being that getting vitamins in as natural and complete form as possible is the most desirable.

Don


Written to Don on February 20, 1999

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Dear Don,

A very good installment, indeed.  I think your story stands well on its own, and needs no further comment except where I've inserted some links to related data.

Karl


Don wrote on March 12, 1999:

Hello Karl,

I read your announcement of Mar.11. I hope the improvement doesn't adversely affect the product. I had that unpleasant experience with a thymus product that I had been using for a coupla years. The improved version fails to do anything for me.

I realize that I am being premature but looks like the stuff is working. I have noted a few remarkable happenings already. Perhaps I am more aware of my body than a lot of folks. I don't believe I am imagining any improvement because I came to this w/o any preconceived notion.

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However, after 15 pills I can say that it looks like something good is going on. This morning when I awoke, I awoke full of energy. That hasn't happened in years...not like this. Next, I noted that my vision was sharp and clear. No I still need my glasses but there are no halos, no blurring.

The most remarkable thing is my left shoulder and hips. For several months I have had increasing pain and soreness in my hips, hamstrings and knee joints. The pain had also migrated up into my left shoulder. It was making my training sessions quite painful, especially in the warm-up stage. A great deal of that discomfort is gone this afternoon.

Not all but a lot. I should tell you that I began working at 8:00 AM this morning. It is now 4:30 PM and this is the first break I have taken all day. I have been doing heavy manual labor. My flexibility/agility is greatly improved and I'm not tired yet.

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It is almost scary that anything could have that much effect that fast. I go to checking the label to see if I had overlooked "speed" as the main ingredient. Other things may be going on too, but I'll wait before commenting on them. I am still taking the NAC. I have been on that for a coupla weeks now and I think it may have paved the way for some of these dramatic events.

I'll keep you posted.

Don


Dear Don,

I have included NAC in my Super Life Glow formula, but am now looking at replacing the cysteine in the regular Life Glow with NAC -- it has remarkable conclusions in many scientific studies -- preventing both cancer and heart disease.

Getting rid of toxic metals in your body can be the exact cause of what you are experiencing.

The amount of lead in human bodies has increased dramatically over what it was 200 years ago -- some studies (done with tissue analysis of old buried bodies, compared to autopsies currently) suggest that the brain of modern man carries as much as 1,000 times more lead in it than brains did 200 years ago.

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The government has gradually "shifted upwards" the amount of lead in the body which is considered dangerous.  In truth, there is ZERO amount of lead in the body that can be considered safe. 

Every bit of lead removed from the body (and out of the brain tissue) will increase IQ and health generally.  I am currently researching how I might change the Life Glow formula to do even more to remove toxic metals from the body -- as I appreciate that the toxic metals cause increased free radical activity which, in turn, causes heart disease and cancer.

I suspect, Don, that you are getting rid of lead -- as they say, to a slow athlete, get the lead out of your butt!

Regards,

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Karl


Don wrote back on March 15, 1999

Karl,

I don't know just how graphic one should get with all of this.

However, day 3 and day 4 are shaping up more like I would have originally expected.

I'm not sure how many of your readers are aware of some of the basic differences between hi-tech modern medicines and herbal treatments. With herbals we usually expect slow modification of existing conditions along with certain "cleansing" reactions. We often seek to modify or lighten the impact of severe cleansing phenomena. Cleansing reactions can range from rashes, aches and pains and/or asthmatic convulsions, etc.,etc.

Obviously one doesn't wish to allow a patient to have a dramatic reaction. In fact some herbalists are accused of being so afraid of this that they water-down treatments to the point of no effect. Naturally treatments so watered are of little or no effect for the patient.

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Now to my story. Day 1 & 2 euphoria...feeling good. In the back of my mind was concern because things don't usually happen that fast. At least not w/o major drugs. Day 3 & 4 are back in focus. I have cleansing reactions.

Most likely they are strong because of the 1200mg of NAC that I am still taking along with the Life Glow.

I would not recommend this to anyone else.

It is just that I was taking the NAC for about a week before I began the Life Glow.

My cleansing crises have to do with elimination. Unfortunately most Americans are not at all regular in their bowel habits. This is one of the major killers in America in my opinion. Some doctors are seeing patients that produce only one movement a week! I can't imagine that. I am more accustomed to 2-3 per day. That's me and my diet.

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[Note by Karl Loren:  If you don't know better, you worry, too, when the stool comes out black and smelly.  I almost guarantee you will have that reaction when you take 3 - 4 ounces per day of Clarks Minerals.  Also, it is good to know what natural really is.  You can learn the difference between floaters and sinkers!  Light brown, not dark, floaters with relatively no smell at all?  Well, that's a healthy elimination.]

On day 3, early in the morning I was noticing difficulty, almost like what I guess constipation to be. I was concerned. Then I began to notice that all eliminations were painful and burning. It was a cleansing reaction. The burning sensations continued throughout day 3.

Today on day 4 no more burning in either area.

Most people would run from this because of the intensity. However, experience tells me that some bad stuff was sloughing off and coming out of the system. Today I trained, all of my joints are sore and feel inflamed.

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However, once again experience tells me that this is not primary inflammation.

This is like a phantom pain. It has some of the characteristics of the real thing but upon squeezing and kneading the joints, I find that they are not sore to the touch. I am reliving or re-experiencing all of my major aches and pains of the last few years but in a greatly subdued state.

While I am not a masochist, I am encouraged by these events.

No some of it isn't pleasant, but my body is telling me that we are removing some nasty stuff.

I am also seeing minor skin eruptions. Once again this is a good sign. It means that my body is getting rid of some bad garbage. I will continue to stay the course because I expect the benefits to outweigh the temporary inconveniences.

My systems are returning to normal and I have abundant energy and I am not falling off to sleep in my chair as easily as before.

Don Rankin
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March 15, 1999

Dear Don,

Don't hesitate to describe what is real to you in terms that are OK with you.

I have had the unusual experience of talking to women who were complete strangers and describing at length some of my suggestions for how they could administer enemas to themselves.  I know that they were not embarrassed by the phone conversation -- nor was I.

We all use the toilet and have a great common reality on these functions.  They may be not the right item for the dinner table, but they ARE the right item for a health page.

Well done!

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Karl


 

-----Original Message-----

Dear Karl,

Its me. Don (the Shawnee) I don't remember but I think I found you via WebCrawler. As you know, my testimonial has generated a few e-mails asking questions about chelation.

I had another Thallium with treadmill test along with sonogram a coupla weeks ago. You may recall that I have been taking Life Glow for a little over a year now. At least I think that is the time frame.

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My arteries were said to be completely clear. NO, I repeat NO blockage. The technician scanned the aorta as well as the heart etc. One of the techs kept stammering, "This is impossible!" I just smiled and asked why? Her response was rather telling. She said, "four years ago your heart attack risk (by their standards) was three times average, today your risk is one half average!"

What does that say about their techniques and hi-tech toys. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WORSE NOT BETTER. Prior to the finding the attending physician was lecturing me because I refuse ALL lipid and heart meds including aspirin. I told him I would not take the poison. He fell silent when the results were announced. He had been so eloquent in his own way prior to the findings.

After the results were revealed he slunk away. This fellow was not my regular doctor. My regular physician knows better than to engage me in trivial discussion about current meds. He knows I'm a traditional herbalist.

Even though I am traditional I make use of good diagnostics, then treat the problem traditionally.

I just thought I would let you know. You may recall your words to your readers when you and I began this journey last year with no idea of how it would turn out. I salute your courage and I salute your product. By the way I am slap out!! Will contact you soon for a new order. Keep on keeping on.

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One final note: No doubt I was a Syndrome X profile. My current cholesterol rating put my HDL at 52! At the time of surgery it was 32. I have done niacin, etc. Today I still follow a largely Neanderthin diet. Actually a traditional Shawnee diet with some modifications. As we have discussed, no refined sugars, no packaged products, no hydrogenated oils, no white potatoes, no corn, no white rice, in fact very few grains. I do own and use a Vitamix everyday at least once. I either make fruit juice smoothies or vegetable drinks. I also utilize 5 -21 day cleansing juice fasts when I feel like it.

Pesalo (take care)

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November 21, 2007:

Dear Karl,

This is Don.

Time for an update. Last week (November 9, 2007) I was tested by my doctor for possibly congested
arteries. He has a copy of my old chart and felt that in view of my medical history and age that I just had to have clogged arteries. Since it was not
costing me anything (how unusual?) I said OK.

 

I went in the next day and they did the major arteries including the carotids.

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Karl, as you know, I have been taking Life Glow since somewhere around 1994. Well, the
tests were performed. The operator on the machine left the room twice and hurried down the hall to the doctor with a few papers in his hands. Each time he came back and did more passes with his sensor. Finally, satisifed he concluded his tests and had a long string of multi columned numbers.

I was ushered in to consult with the doctor. He stood there for a minute and finally said,

Well, I would have never beleived it but your arteries are perfectly clear. You don't even have the slightest buildup even in your carotids.

That is when I told him about Life Glow and
my use of 2 oz. of pomegranate juice (Wonderful Pom brand) per day.

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Anyway here we are about 13 years AFTER triple by-pass and NO clogged arteries. My current doctor and I have a good relationship. He knows I don't do meds. Right now my blood pressure is elevated a bit and I am eating celery. It has already dropped ten points since last week. We have agreed that if I can't get it under control then I will consider the med. approach. I can make a deal like that because I know some other secrets that I haven't used as of yet. Right now my BP is 152/80, heart rate 52.


For years my heart rate hasn't changed but the BP is climbing and a portion of the heart muscle is thickening. BP was usually 110/60.

But here I am getting older but still no meds. I did have to have a surgical procedure this summer. The greater saphenous veins in my right and left leg
were closed with laser surgery. The valves had blown out. The surgeon felt that it was hereditary but possibly related to 25 years of full contact
karate. I'm not sure about that but I have not been able to train since April. I want to go back but the healing time has taken longer than I would have thought. I just thought I would give you this update since we did that testimonial so long ago.

From time to time I get messages, inquiries about
my use of Life Glow. I'm still on it. I only use 10 capsules per day now, 5 in the am, 5 in the pm with my meals. Just wanted to keep you in the loop.

Don Rankin

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kahkahwee@charter.net

Dear Don

It is great to hear from you -- thanks for keeping me in your loop.

Don, it's time for more photos! How about sending me a batch by eMail and I'll publish them on this page.

As I get older, and having started Kung Fu, I'm believing more and more that your Karate has had a lot to do with your great success with your arteries.

There is no question that the oral chelation formula does wonders for most people -- but when it doesn't I often find "life style" problems that you have not had.

So, congratulations on a life style that has enhanced your health.

Do send photos and write again.

I'm featuring your current message in one of my electronic newsletters.

Karl Loren

 


Dear Karl

From Don Rankin, Received November 23, 2007:

Dear Karl,

I have read the  words you have written about me.  I would like to request a modification.

I have been privileged to train with Saiko Shihan Oyama for the past 25 years.

I am a senior student, however, the word expert is not in my vocabulary when I speak of myself and karate.

I have trained with experts.  Saiko Shihan is definitely an EXPERT.  I am proud to be one of his students but I would never promote my self as an expert when it comes to karate. 

Thanks,
Don Rankin   

 



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#1  ZOCOR is a prescription drug that is indicated as an addition to diet for many patients with high cholesterol when diet and exercise are inadequate. For patients with coronary heart disease (CHD) and high cholesterol, ZOCOR is indicated as an addition to diet to reduce the risk of death by reducing coronary death; to reduce the risk of heart attack; to reduce the risk for undergoing cardiac procedures (coronary artery bypass grafting and percutaneous transluminal coronary angioplasty); and to reduce the risk of stroke or transient ischemic attack (TIA).  [Click on the number above to return to the same place in the text as from where you came.]


#2  Shawnee Indian Lore:  Respect others in their view, and demand that they respect yours. Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and its purpose in the service of your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide. Always give a word or a sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, even a stranger, when in a lonely place. Show respect to all people and grovel to none. When you arise in the morning give thanks for the food and for the joy of living. If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies only in yourself. Abuse no one and no thing, for abuse turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision. When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home."

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  #3 Te·cum·seh

Te·cum·seh

(tĭ-kŭmʹsə) or Te·cum·tha (-thə),
1768-1813

Shawnee leader who attempted to establish a confederacy to unify Native Americans against white encroachment. He sided with the British in the War of 1812 and was killed in the Battle of the Thames.



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