I think there is nothing more disturbing or upsetting in life than to know with certainty that another, who you love, is harming himself or herself, and to feel powerless to get them to change!

Nothing!

I constantly get letters and phone calls.  John calls, and says, "I can't get my mother, Mary, to listen to me!"  Mary calls, and says, "I can't get my son, John, to listen to me!"

These are two people, each who dearly loves the other -- yet as they have gone through life on different roads, they have had different experiences, and have arrived wherever they are with a set of data and "true facts" that, often, differ drastically from the other.

"I just can't understand how my boy could marry that girl! Why she smokes!"

"I love my mom, but why won't she move out of that house!  Into this convalescent home?"

You may have had these experiences -- with those you loved?

I certainly have had them.  You are in a comfortable position of prosperity or status, and you want to extend your helping hand to someone you love!  They reject your offer of help!

My own mother died of a heart problem when I KNEW that she was refusing to take the very vitamins I was selling, and that would have given her, I think, at least another 10 wonderful years to be with us.  She was full of life, even at 74, and traveled constantly, all over the world.  When I was living in various foreign countries, she would often visit us in some exotic place.

Even when I had settled back in the US, she often traveled to my home, or just went somewhere. She certainly wasn't rich, but she loved to travel.  She also, unfortunately, loved to smoke!  She didn't love my vitamins.

I still have this wonderful image of her -- being a loving grandmother to my six children!

She would say, "Well, son, those vitamins are OK for you to take.  I'll just keep getting by the way I have.  After all, I'm doing OK aren't I?" What could I say.  She was active and enjoyed life!

At 74, active as she was, all I could say was, "Mom, I love you.  You have arrived at your age and great state of joy in life by making lots of the right decisions. Who am I to question some of those decisions?"

Here I am, at 70, feeling very "right" about all the many decisions I've made, all these years.  My goodness, I swallow my own vitamins.  I am currently exercising every day (!) for about two hours and feel great.  I've just gone white-water rafting on my 70th birthday, and have ridden one of those "Wave Runners" several times since that birthday!  I've shown you this picture before, and I now even have quite a photo gallery of my rafting experience on one of my web sites.  I hope you'll go visit and enjoy the photos of me and my family.

Incidentally, I've inserted text in that photo that shows my "real" name:  Loren C. Troescher.  If you have read much of my web sites, you'll know that "Karl Loren" is my professional name, as an author.

My children love me, and I guess they don't dare tell me about the things I do that they consider so "wrong." 

The type of "disagreements" I've been describing are among the most upsetting in life -- they are usually between two persons who love one another.  If you disagree with the garbage collector about the proper color for a shirt? not a big deal.  But, when you disagree with your spouse about smoking!  it can get to you!

I'd like to address this issue in this Wednesday Letter.

After all, my 13,000 pages are full of data that are very contrary to conventional wisdom.  If you agree with much of what I write, you surely find yourself disagreeing with many people around you.  You who read this Wednesday Letter are a rare breed.  You read my stuff -- and you don't disagree!  That is rare.  The vast majority of people still think that:

• Health Insurance is a good thing!  It is not.  It causes disease!
• Cholesterol lowering drugs are good.  They are not!  The benefit ONLY the drug companies.
• An angiogram is a safe and accurate measure of heart disease.  It is not!  It causes heart disease.
• Bypass surgery is safe and effective.  It is not!  It is a fraud!  It causes mental decline!
• The AIDS virus causes AIDS.  That is a lie.  Poor diet and bad life style cause AIDS.
• Only drugs can relieve the pain of arthritis. That is not true.  MSM is remarkably effective as James Coburn proved.
• America owes its great good health to modern medicine.  Not true.  Drugs are making us into a third world country -- increasing illiteracy.
• Doctors are helping their patients.  Not always true.  They constantly violate their own Hippocratic Oath.
• Doctors are well trained.  Not true. They go through a period of sleep deprivation in order to be brainwashed into false beliefs about the value of drugs.
• The proper diet is what is recommended by the American Diabetic Association.  Not True!
• The American Heart Association tells the truth about drug therapy.  Not true. They lie and admit it!

Can you grasp the enormity of this!  I am not asking you to look at the enormity of lies being put out by authoritative sources!  No, the point is somewhat different.  Here am I, making these dramatic and extreme claims about lies from "trusted sources" and YOU ARE READING THEM!  That is the amazing thing! 

The idea that someone could write all this stuff and still find an audience?  That is amazing.

So, let's go back to the question and problem of, "How do you get your loved one, who is just fat and dieing of drugs -- how do you get him to change?"

Here is my suggestion.

People take in data and tend to believe it is true.  Particularly when they receive data from "trusted sources" they tend to accept that data as the truth.

That data then becomes "part of them."  They don't view that data as "government data which I think is true."

No.  They think of that data as, "my data which is true."

This is an important principal I suggest you examine and accept.   When a person has some data he believes is true, and even believes it is "his own," he cannot absorb other data that is contrary.

John "learned" from his father, that, "Blondes are dumber than brunets."   John has this data as "the truth" and perhaps his father even pointed out some actual "dumb blondes."  Now John meets an attractive Blonde girl.  He thinks she is pretty, yes, but he also KNOWS that she is dumb.  When the blonde girl gets high grades in school, John figures she cheated -- because, "everyone knows that Blondes are dumb!"

You come along and talk to John about girls.  You don't share his "truth" that "Blondes are dumb!"  He expresses this "truth" to you.  You disagree.  You say to John, "No, that isn't true. The color of a person's hair does not affect their intelligence."  He KNOWS you are wrong, and he will never agree with you as long as he believes that early datum from his father.

How do you get THAT changed!  Well, it is not complicated.  You get him to start looking at this datum using logic, but you attack it "from the side."  He may not even be willing to use logic, and then it is harder, but let's take an easy one first:

You:  "John, you said that 'Blondes are dumb.' "

John:  "Yes."

You:  "How about a brunet who dies her hair blonde?"

John:  (puzzled) "Well I haven't thought of that.  I guess she wouldn't be dumb."

You:  "OK, how about a little girl that starts off blonde and as she grows older her hair gets dark and she is a brunet?"

John:  "Well, she would get smarter as she got older.  She got smarter and her hair changed color."

(John is a bit wary of you about this now.  He would rather not have to defend the logic of this -- so he would rather change the subject.)

You:  "I just found a scientific study, done by the 'International Academy of Cosmetology' about hair color and 'success in business.'   It studied 14,000 women in professional careers and charted their annual salary against their hair color.  The study found that the color of hair has no connection with success measured by salary.  What do you think?"

John:  (wavering)  "Well, let's go fishing."

You:  (a few weeks later)  "John, I'd like you to meet Jane. She was the valedictorian at my high school graduation, and she is now a very successful lawyer."

John:  "Well, hello Jane!"  (thinking:  "She seems rather smart!")

You:  "John, I just read a book about Hitler. Did you know that believed that blondes were smarter than brunets, and that he arranged to have millions of women killed because they had dark hair?"

John:  "No! Really!  He did that?"

You:  "Was your father German?  What did he think of Hitler?"  (the mortal blow!!)

John:  "Oh, my father had lots of crazy ideas.  He even tried to convince me that 'Blondes are dumb,' but I'm too smart to fall for that one!"

You:  "Oh!  Great."

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It may not be this easy, but then again, it may!

I am constantly finding evidence of the lies published by "authoritative sources."  I put them out there.  If someone is totally within the clutches of the "system," he won't read my stuff.  But, as soon as the "student is ready, I will be there -- appear."

When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.

But, the teacher could be lost in the wilderness, and not "appear" with any prominence.

Not me!  I have 13,000 web pages, and get extremely high rankings for dozens of topics entered into search engines.  I am out there where everyone can find me.  I have appeared!  If the student is ready, he will find me.

The term "chelation therapy" is becoming very well known because of my web sites.  After all I have had these webs up here for more than four years. That is OLD in the web business.

You can help -- you just mention, causally, "have you heard about chelation therapy?"

Suggest they search for the phrase on the web.  They will find me.

And whoever you talk to has been given one of the keys of access to the truth.

My advice?

Don't use a sledge hammer when you talk to that loved one about something you think needs changing.

A person cannot be forced into taking responsibility for himself.

You will never succeed if your frontal attack tells your friend, "You are wrong, and your ideas are wrong!"

That approach will never work.

You have to get HIM or HER to see this truth for himself, or herself.

I think the way to do it is gradually, attacking the data he holds as true, but never attacking him.

He will let go of false data reluctantly, but he will do that.  He will never admit that he has been wrong because you tell him he is!

I hope this helps.  It can help you in all sorts of human relationships.

I see our world as badly out of communication with one another. We talk, but do not listen. We listen, but don't understand!  There are so many failures in communication, and the worst of them may be between those who love one another, and where the disagreement is on the subject of "health."  My thousands of web pages can help.  I have exposed hundreds of lies -- read and quote, go gently, go "side ways!"  But, it is also possible to have wonderful and understanding relationships.

You don't want your loved one to die.  But, he eats nothing but chocolate!  It is worth the work to get him, gently and gradually, to understand some of the real truth about diet and harmful foods.

I won't say that it is easy, but it is about the only game in town -- salvaging the human relationships that have gone wrong because of disagreements.

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New Subject:  Karl Had Cancer.  Karl Had Surgery!

You know me.  I'm the author of a lengthy expose of the evils of biopsy.  I recommend, strongly, against any of the conventional treatments for cancer.

Well, I have written extensively about a "bump" I had on my chest.  You'll find that bump mentioned many months ago.  I even predicted that I would probably get a biopsy of this bump in a previous edition of The Wednesday Letter.

If you want to look at something ugly, I even published a photo of that bump as of July 2000 -- click here.

The bump had improved with my treatment, and by September 2000 it was like this.

By May 2001 the bump had healed a great deal.  Here is a photo as of that date. This was just before I decided to get the biopsy and surgery.

So, it turned out to be the least dangerous of all cancer -- a skin cancer.  How can I tell this story?  How can I have gone for a biopsy and surgery when I write so strongly against them?

I have a religious belief that only the spirit can heal the body.  With that belief I also believe that there is still a place for vitamins, even possibly some few drugs!  When the body is sick, obviously the spirit is not succeeding in healing that body.  When the body is sick, and the spirit is weak, the medical world has solutions.  Some of them work.

They work generally because the spirit, weak as it may be, is actually doing the work, but thinking that the medicine is helping.

So, my religious belief includes that the spirit can be assisted to increase its ability to heal the body.

My religion offers me many opportunities for spiritual counseling that are intended to increase spiritual abilities -- not to directly affect the body.  When that spiritual counseling is successful, the spirit, then, can better heal the body.

It would be a wrong sequence to seek this counseling directly to heal the body -- because that would deny the truth that only the spirit can heal the body.  So, my religion does NOT offer counseling for the purpose of healing the body.  It seems, perhaps, a slight difference, but it is an important difference.  Our society has gotten to such a low level that it is almost illegal for a church to heal.  It would probably be enough to get a church closed down by the government if it advertised something like, "we heal cancer."

I've written before about the study that showed that prayer could heal heart patients, but the sad truth is that such studies are never considered valid enough to expand on them.  I suspect that if some particular form of prayer or religious counseling started getting a reputation for "healing cancer," it would be investigated and found to be a fraud -- despite the truth to the contrary. We live in perilous times!

So, a person who has a serious illness, such as cancer, is expected to handle that illness with whatever material resources might work before getting spiritual counseling. This would certainly include any sort of "alternative" therapies.  I was using alternative therapies on my bump, and the bump was getting smaller during the last year.  Traditional cancer treatment never would admit that such alternative therapy could accomplish that.  But, the bump was still there -- looking very much like cancer of some sort.

Perhaps I should have obtained that spiritual counseling long before the bump appeared. That way it might never have appeared -- the spirit having gained ability to heal such things.

But, I was slow to seek that spiritual counseling, and by the time I was ready to get it, the bump was pretty ugly.

So, I accepted the requirement that I get it checked out.

I actually wrote up a very lengthy document and insisted that my cancer doctor read it. She did. It described at great length my feelings about cancer treatments.  I wanted her opinion, before she did a biopsy, as to what she thought the bump was.

Then, I asked her what would be the treatment she would recommend for each of the possible outcomes of a biopsy.

She was very confident that the bump was a "basal cell carcinoma." This is the least dangerous of all types of cancer.  She explained that the normal treatment was surgical removal, and that this treatment was virtually 100% effective.  Even if, after the surgery, there were still some cancer cells remaining, the further treatment would be only a bit more surgery -- never chemotherapy or radiation.

I had the biopsy.

It came back as "basal cell carcinoma."  I had already decided, of course, that if it came back as skin cancer I would go ahead with the surgery.

The surgery was done about a week later, in her office.  There was only a topical anesthesia and it took about one hour.  I was asking her questions all through the procedure.  I ran out of questions.  She and the nurse then discussed vacation plans.  It was very casual.

During the surgery she took samples of tissue all around the outside edge of the area being cut out. These specimen samples of tissue were marked, separately (left, right, up, down, etc.). When these tissues came back from the lab, the report was that there were NO cancer cells in these tissue specimens. That meant that the surgery got the whole mass of cancer -- with none on the edges.

This is the type of cancer that does NOT metastasize.  In other words, a biopsy is not particularly dangerous for this type of cancer because it will not spread into the rest of the body when cut.

My bump is gone. There is not even any scar you can see.

I would have wanted to cure this bump using alternative therapies.  Incidentally, I never used my own Taheebo Life Tea because I thought I had something else (dilute iodine and Vitamin A cream) I thought was better.  If I had this all to do over, I would have used the Taheebo. But, I didn't quite know the details of the requirement that I have this bump "handled" before I got the spiritual counseling I went for.

So, the bump is gone, and there is nothing else to worry about.  I am now about to get that spiritual counseling and increase my spiritual ability to heal my own body.

I'm very pleased with all this.

I have such a strong sense of integrity that I knew I would have to tell my readers about this -- you can always count on Karl Loren to be honest with you.

Would I suggest the same treatment to someone?  It depends, I think, on where you are looking for your help, and whether that source has a requirement that my source has. 

Write if you wish, to ask any question you wish.  In fact, just click here and your eMail program will open with my address already in there. Write to me.  I will answer.

Has Your Teacher Not Appeared?

Perhaps you, the student, are not ready?

Karl Loren

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