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From: Max Health [mailto:mike@seasilverhealth.com ]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:58 PM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: your slander
Importance: High
Karl,The court's legal definition of slander or defamation in part is:"lower him in the estimation of right-thinking members of society
generally or disparage him in his office, profession or trade".Seasilver (Max Health) is my full time profession/trade. I'm in the top 5 distributors in the country. My income is approx. $2,000,000 per year. Max Health, LLC which is the corporation you have "slandered" is just one of 4 that I own. I can afford, and I have a top notch law firm.I'll cut to the point. Myself, my attorneys, and Dr. Friedman, have the information on your website (do try to change it, we printed it) proclaiming me and my company as a "scam". I talked to my attorneys this week, today, and next Tuesday we will complete our discussion regarding legal action against you. Everyone in that firm agrees that any court would find you guilty of these crimes. I have printed many emails that I have received from people who decided not to join Seasilver because of 2 things in your article. The free website (which you proclaim is not free). The "placement" program (where I place new distributors into my downline.First of all, I have thousands of distributors with my "free" replicated website that have had it for years and NEVER paid a penny for it. (On a side note, I have received dozens of complaints about you from my downline that tell me they have been damaged by you also. My attorneys have not decided yet whether we would have a possible "class action" suit, but I'll probably know by Tuesday).Secondly, I sign up approx. 70 new distributors each WEEK. ALL of these new distributors are placed under people in my downline according to the guidelines in my placement program. I have placed hundreds of people under other distributors in my downline. I have dozens of people, including doctors, and lawyers that will verify this. Of course Seasilver Corp. knows me well, and they know and help me with this program.Now back to my damages. According to my attorneys, and what they say a court would accept, for every person that didn't join because of you, there are a least 10 that we don't know of. We'll, we're up to several thousand dollars. But then there are the "residual" sales I'm losing. So we multiply the loss several times over. This is my FIRST level! I won't bother how it multiplies as you go through my downline, or the damages to Dr. Friedman. The owner/founder of Seasilver Corp. has agreed to help us with input of what my losses probably are according to general statistics of Seasilver Corp. sales.Now without having to blink, I told my attorneys, I ready to have them proceed with the suit. However, one of my attorneys suggested that to avoid all this, you (Karl) do the following:On your website you retract (in detail) everything that you lied about my company, in writing, on your website. In addition to that, you make a public apology to me, on your website, in writing. I said I would propose this to you, and give you until March 7th to do this.The ball's in your court.Sincerely,
March 3, 2003
Mike, my last message to you.
Slander is always verbal, libel is the word you are searching for -- libel is "untrue defamation" in writing. But, then, you are probably not yet talking with a real lawyer.
I would suggest that a real lawyer would advise you, strongly, to NOT put so much into your xmessages (which I publish) that would haunt you in Court.
Karl.
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