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-----Original Message-----
From: DenaMCollins@aol.com [mailto:DenaMCollins@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:11 AM
To: KARL@karlloren.com
Subject: GREETINGS FROM BAYSHORE NEWYORK!
Dear Karl, Hi! I would like to introduce myself. My name is Dena. I am a good
friend of Nick winn who has been raving about both you and MSM for months
now. He suggested that I write to you regarding my problems. I have taken MSM
before but not in grand doses. This is my case scenario. I am an X-alcoholic.
In recovery for three years. I have been diagnosed with "Manic Depression",This is a false diagnosis -- the phrase was invented for the sole purpose of making psychiatrists wealthy, and drug companies rich.
chronic insomnia, Hepatitis C Virus, fibromyalgia syndrome, scoliosis,
arthritic right hip, bone loss at the hips, premenstrual syndrome dysphoric
disorder.Invariably when someone tells me such a long laundry list of problems, I know there must be a simple answer and that the person is probably unwilling to use that simple answer.Diet is almost always the major problem when you have so many problems.I have pain almost daily. Lower back, neck and shoulders. Sometimes
at the hips and sometimes in my left wrist which was fractured a few years
back. I have had a lumbar facet block into my spine by a doctor for severe
lower back pain.A terrible mistake.It seemed to work at first but several months later I
suffered from a head-on car collisionDena, I know something else about you with great certainty. You not only have health problems, but you have problems with accidents and extremely bad decisions you are making.Whether you will admit it or not, I know this to be true about you.You are being actively suppressed by someone close to you -- husband, parent, boyfriend -- whatever. Close means very close. Not the IRS!Suppressed? This person is telling you that you will not succeed, and this person is telling you what to think about yourself.He/She is evaluating for you and invalidating you.You will NOT get healthy, or avoid these accidents, until you spot this person and either disconnect from him/her or get those suppressive actions stopped.I speak the plain truth to you.MSM will stop pain, but you have a much bigger problem than pain -- you have a suppressive influence in your life and you will die because of it unless you spot it and do something.and was back in the hospital with even
more severe lower back pain. I have been on every possible medication known
to man, you name it, I've taken it! I have been missed diagnosed several
times. Doctors have been absolutely rude and rotten to me and labeled me as a
"NUT" and told me, quote "you are just fine". I have been to orthopedic
Doctors, rheumatologists, psychiatristsThe worst of all -0- psychiatrists.Dena, I have not read yet below, but if I find that you are taking any anti-depressant drug, then there is where you must start -- those drugs are evil and dangerous., neurologists , etc., etc., etc., the
list goes on forever. For the most part they say I am exagerating my pain and
I am perfectly healthy. They have only found one "Herniated disc" at the L-5
level. My pain goes across the lower back into my right buttock and then very
bad in my left shoulder muscle, not in the shoulder bone. Before I get my
period , I do the "ten day countdown". From when I first start ovulating till
my period I suffer. I can be bedridden for a week with pain and severe
tiredness. I am 41 years old 5feet 2 inches 126-130 lbs. my weight
fluctuates. I can go up to 138 lbs which is my heavy weight. I am maybe 122
now. My diet isn't so great. I love bread but I try to eat only whole wheat.Here it is. I had not read this when I predicted that diet is your basic problem.
I also have had my gall bladder removed for severe stomach trouble in the
past. I have a hiatal hernia too. I get heartburn sometimes also. I usually
eat on the run. Large coffee in the morning, a few hours later oatmeal with
milk and a little butter and maybe toast with butter. no lunch or maybe a ham
and cheese sandwich on wheat, always on whole wheat or twelve grain. I eat
dinner late which is usually chicken broth with pastina and a little lemon
juice. Either or cereal, raisin bran or shredded wheat or farina made with
milk. I get a hankering for sweets, I do indulge in pie or cookies with milk
at night. I do not drink a lot of water. I sometimes juice carrots,apples or
celery. Or even make fresh orange grapefruit and lemon juice in the morning.
If I have the time. Lots of time I am too lazy to juice.(too much effort, too
little time.) I know a lot about suppliments,i have taken plenty, especially
MSM. During PMS is when I try to stay regimented on the supplements.
Milkthistle for liver, Aminos, DMG and SOD and CoQ . I run out of money and
can't really afford to keep up with them.Dena, I think that I am 90% right in predicting that you will not listen to me -- people like you are driving as fast as possible to death, and any number of pieces of good advice are usually ignored.That's my prediction about you -- early death.I would hope I am wrong.The diet is the key.I don't expect you to respond, but if you are willing to hear this truth, write back and I'll be more specific on diet for you.My liver enzymes are checked maybe
twice a year and the last result was beautiful! Like a normal person's liver
enzymes. The Doctors didn't see that I was a candidate for interferon,
rebiviron therapy. I hate to exercise! I love to swim. I am very active
physically, manic most of the time. I clean and take care of the elderly and
do lots of volunteer work in my community.Dumb.It is the sick taking care of the sick!Your first duty is to yourself -- you will only harm the elderly you claim to care for -- when you are as sick as you are.The pain pills I am on cause me to
be constipated. I try not to take too much medication because of my liver but
do take them when I am in massive pain. I get on and off prozac.There it is. While diet is your basic problem, the most important problem is self-caused -- prozac.I have a company policy that I refuse to sell any of my products to anyone taking Prozac -- because I cannot help someone who is doing that -- other than by urging them to stop that drug =-- for ever, and sue for malpractice the doctor who prescribed it -- he is suppressive to you -- he is not YOUR suppressive person because he is probably not "close enough" to you, however.I sometimes
take it when I am on crying jags because of PMS but don't like to stay on it
and take very low doses 10-20 mgs. I took it just recently when a friend
passed away. I can say I have seasonal affective disorder and my depression
is incident related, situational.This a bullship psychiatric term that you have foolishly bought -- it is crap!I am using profanity in the small hope of getting through ot you about how stupid you are being.People around me, sad situations etc. I am
not really a depressed person. I am upbeat, full of life, work like an ox,
keep going and going and going.No, prozac is turning you into a vegetable -- you already have, or soon will have, no more sensations or emotions or interest in life -- it is coming.I do burn out at times and can sleep a lot.
My main problem is 3-4 days before my period I suffer tremendously. No sleep,
severe pain. Pain is everyday but tolerable compared to PMS time. This seems
like you know my whole life history. Perhaps you may run and jump off a long
pier now after hearing all of my ailments at 41 years old?I won't do that at all. Your case is simple.You are being actively suppressed by someone close to you, you are taking stupid drugs, and your diet is lousy.I will not sell you MSM until you have cleaned up your life with simple stuff.! My friend Nick
regarded you highly and demanded that I write to you or else our 25+ year
friendship would be jeopardized!You should send this message to Nick -- he is right to threaten you with disconnection unless you change.And, he is right that this is the way I always respond to people like you. You must let him know what I have written.You have a very tiny chance to live -- by contacting me -- and by following my advice -- otherwise, you are doomed.Karl LorenI hope you can help! Thankyou for your time
in reading my long, drawn out letter. Sincerely yours, Dena M. Collins
denamcollins@aol.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nwinn [mailto: nwinn@optonline.net ]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 8:54 AM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: MY FRIEND,DENA
DEAR KARL: ON FIRST HEARING OF YOUR CLAIMS IN THE HEALTH FIELD AND READING SOME OF YOUR STUFF I SAID "YEAH,ANOTHER GUY KNOCKING THE MEDICAL FIELD.BUT ON READING FURTHER MY SCEPTICISM FADED.SOON I REALISED YOU WHERE WRITING THE TRUTH. A PROCESS OF INITIATION ON MY PART,AFTER BEING BOMBARDED BY MISINFORMATION ALL MY LIFE.SOON I BECAME AN AVID READER ,LOOKING UP YOUR WEBSITES AND MARVELING AT YOUR THOROUGH RESEARCH METHODS. I ONLY WISH THERE WHERE MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF,THE TRUTH IN THE HEALTH AND MEDICAL FIELD HAS BECOME AN ENDANGERED COMMODITY.DENA IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF THIS,SHE IS A LARGER THAN LIFE PERSON! SO FULL OF VITALITY,AND LOVE OF LIFE. SOON AFTER SHE GOT SOBER SHE ,OUT OF CHARACTER, STARTED COMPLAINING OF ALL KINDS OF ACHES AND PAINS, IT OCCURED TO ME SHE WAS A CRYER, BUT NO. KNOWING DENA SHE IS JUST THE OPPERSIT,SHE WOULD NEVER COMMPLAIN WITHOUT GOOD REASON.SO I STARTED MY CAMPAIN,AND WAS AMAZED AT THE SCEPTICISM YOU MUST BE CONFRONTED WITH,A PROCESS YOU ILLUSTRATE IN YOUR WRITINGS,. I GAVE HER SOME MSM,SHE ONLY TOOK IT ONCE IN AWILE AND IN SMALL AMOUNTS.SHE FORWARDED THE LETTER TO YOU, TO ME. I FELT I HAD UNLEASHED A SECRET WEAPON ON YOU! HER MEDICAL RECORD IS IMPRESSIVE. NOW I CAN ONLY PRAY, KARL THAT YOU WILL HELP HER,AS I AM SHURE YOU WILL.I PRINT OUT AND DISTRIBUTE YOUR NEWSLETTER TO ALL MY FRIENDS, I DON,T GIVE OUT SAMPLES EXCEPT IN DENA<S CASE,THAY ARE NOT ENOUGH TO BE EFFECTIVE. PLEASE FORGIVE MY WRITING AND SPELLING,BUT ANOTHER STORY.I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK YOUR WORK IS A TRIBUTE TO HUMAN NATURE.SINCERLY, NICK.
-----Original Message-----
From: nwinn [mailto:nwinn@optonline.net]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 8:23 AM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: HEALING
KARL YOUR MESSAGE TO DENA IS A BRILLIENT SUMMNATION OF HER CONDITION,THE BEST I HAVE HEARD, EVER. HOWEVER THE TRUTH CAN HURT AND YOUR METHOD OF DELIVERY WAS BRUTAL,TO PUT IT MILDLY. I DONT CALL THIS HEALING,YOU HAVE LEFT HER A BLOODIED MESS. THE OPERATION WAS A SUCESS BUT THE PATIENT DIED.YOU HAVE SUCEEDED IN CLOSING HER MIND TO THE TRUTH BY INTIMIDATION. YOU DEFINATLY OWE HER AN APOLOGY AND EXPLANATION TO YOUR SELF INDULGENT RAGE AIMED AT"DUMBNESS" AND "STUPIDITY"THAT IS THE CAUSE,THE EFFECT IS DEVASTATING,YOU INADVERTANTLY DIRECTED THIS TOWARD SOMEONE THAT NEEDS HELP,AND IS A VICTIM OF NO MORE THAN MISINFORMATION.YOU ARE UNDOUTABLY A BRILLIANT MAN KARL,AND I FOR ONE DEEPLY RESPECT YOUR STUDIED OPINIONS,I WOULD TAKE THEM OVER "THE PROFESSIONAL" DOWN THE BLOCK,AND I HOPE I CAN CONTINUE TO LEARN FROM YOU. AS A FOOTNOTE I AM NOT A "DUMB" PERSON. I ENTERED COLLEGE DIRECTLY FROM THE NINTH GRADE AND HAPPILY MAJORED IN CHEMISTRY, I CAN SPOT A GOOD RESEARCHER.SINCERLY.............. NICK.
Dear Ms. Hunt,
-----Original Message-----
From: quilts@goeaston.net [mailto:quilts@goeaston.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:50 PM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: Hello!!! Nice to meet you!!
hello, I have heard about your prolific writings through my long lost
Uncle. He suggested I contact you.
He must have come back from being long lost?
I would like to know if you may be able to steer me in the proper direction on balancing my health. I am 41, and was diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called Basilar Artery Migraine.
Ms. Hunt: I know when I hear of a "rare" disease that is an "invented disease." Invented for the primary purpose of making the victim feel justified in not getting help, and invented for the purpose of excusing the failure of conventional medicine to handle it, and with the purpose of making lots of money for some drug -- the drug being invented for the sole purpose of treating this invented disease.
Here is what I find about this thint:
Basilar Artery Migraine (BAM) is a subtype of "migraine with aura" in the new IHS classification scheme. The category now combines the term "basilar artery migraine" with "posterior fossa migraine" under the term "basilar migraine," implying involvement of the basilar artery and its branches to the brainstem as well as the posterior cerebral arteries (Baloh and Harker, 1993). Under the current classification, the migranous episode must meet the criteria for "migraine with aura," and then also meet the following criteria for BAM.
Basilar Artery Migraine: Pt. must have two (2) or more of the following symptoms:visual symptoms (bilateral temporal and nasal fields) double vision
dysarthria ataxia
vertigo tinnitus
bilateral paresthesia decreased hearing
decreased level of consciousness bilateral paresis
So, it is a migrane.
It is not exactly a migraine, and there are very few doctors in the country who even know what it is.
That is because the invention of new diseases is to benefit the inventor =-- not the patient or other doctors. I am very skeptical, as you can see.
Basically it is the major artery swelling up and putting pressure on the brainstem. I have been undiagnosed for 27 years and therefore have experienced excruciating pain & disability with little relief.(sharp stabbing at base of skull).
This I accept as a valid description. THIS is your perception. The rest of it is invention that you have bought into.
It is a vascular problem I guess causing neurological symptoms. Among them blurry vision w/ floaters, throbbong at base of skull & in leg, episodes of faintness, difficulty thinking & remembering, confusion, and severe muscular atrophy in the spine.
Ah! The best invented disease will appear very complicated and incapable of cure -- that way doctors can fail without blame and drugs can be sold in great gobs.
As well i have menstrual cycles from hell. I get extremely depressed and pain occurs at it's peak during these phases.
These are the symptoms that normally lead to your being prescribed to take a psych drug. I have not read even one further line, but I'll bet you have been recommended for a psych drug, or are taking one???
I am presently taking Verapamil which is a calcium channel blocker and an antidepressant Trazodone.
Just as I predicted. You will not believe that I predicted this. You will believe that I read that you are taking an anti-depressant, not that I predicted from your earlier remarks.
I can help you.
But, the ONLY help I will offer is that you MUST get off the anti-depressant.
Every other possible form of help you could receive would fail until you get off that drug. These anti-depressants turn you into a vegetable -- without feeling or emotion. If you are not there yet, you will be.
You have no choice other than go back to the unethical doctor who prescribed this drug and tell him you want off of it.
If he refuses, give me his name and the circumstances and I will publicize his malpractice -- then you go to another doctor until you find an MD who will help you get off the psych drug.
Yes, I refuse to sell you any of my products until you are off psych drugs.
They are dangerous and harmful.
But the verapamil causes constipation and then i have to take natural laxative, and this results in stomach distress. I do not like the Trazodone(similar to elavil) as it worsens my memory.
Of course. That is the least of your worries with this drug.
I am a strange guy, selling vitamins to make a living, refusing to sell to anyone who takes psych drugs. Why? Because I believe in the Hippocratic Oath:
Dear Ms. Hunt,
-----Original Message-----
From: quilts@goeaston.net [mailto:quilts@goeaston.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:50 PM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: Hello!!! Nice to meet you!!
hello, I have heard about your prolific writings through my long lost
Uncle. He suggested I contact you. I would like to know if you may be able to
steer me in the proper direction on balancing my health. I am 41, and was
diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called Basilar Artery Migraine. It
is not exactly a migraine, and there are very few doctors in the country who
even know what it is. Basically it is the major artery swelling up and putting
pressure on the brainstem. I have been undiagnosed for 27 years and therefore
have experienced excruciating pain & disability with little relief.(sharp
stabbing at base of skull). It is a vascular problem I guess causing
neurological symptoms. Among them blurry vision w/ floaters, throbbong at base
of skull & in leg, episodes of faintness, difficulty thinking & remembering,
confusion, and severe muscular atrophy in the spine. As well i have menstrual
cycles from hell. I get extremely depressed and pain occurs at it's peak during
these phases. I am presently taking Verapamil which is a calcium channel blocker
and an antidepressant Trazodone. But the verapamil causes constipation and then
i have to take natural laxative, and this results in stomach distress. I do not
like the Trazodone(similar to elavil) as it worsens my memory. I want to balance
my body naturally through diet, exercise and meditation, but I believe I need
something to support this balance.
You might improve your balance, at the cost of your life.
I was wondering if you may have an inkling as to what direction I could take to find this balance.
You must discontinue any psych drug, and report any doctor prescribing such to me for publicity for malpractice if he won't take you off of it.
I fully expect you to ignore me.
Tell your uncle. Let him see my answer to you.
I speak only the truth -- many don't want to hear it.
Who am I?? (Copy of my newsletter about Karl Loren)
-----Original Message-----
From: quilts@goeaston.net [mailto:quilts@goeaston.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:50 PM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: Hello!!! Nice to meet you!!
hello, I have heard about your prolific writings through my long lost
Uncle. He suggested I contact you. I would like to know if you may be able to
steer me in the proper direction on balancing my health. I am 41, and was
diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called Basilar Artery Migraine. It
is not exactly a migraine, and there are very few doctors in the country who
even know what it is. Basically it is the major artery swelling up and putting
pressure on the brainstem. I have been undiagnosed for 27 years and therefore
have experienced excruciating pain & disability with little relief.(sharp
stabbing at base of skull). It is a vascular problem I guess causing
neurological symptoms. Among them blurry vision w/ floaters, throbbong at base
of skull & in leg, episodes of faintness, difficulty thinking & remembering,
confusion, and severe muscular atrophy in the spine. As well i have menstrual
cycles from hell. I get extremely depressed and pain occurs at it's peak during
these phases. I am presently taking Verapamil which is a calcium channel blocker
and an antidepressant Trazodone. But the verapamil causes constipation and then
i have to take natural laxative, and this results in stomach distress. I do not
like the Trazodone(similar to elavil) as it worsens my memory. I want to balance
my body naturally through diet, exercise and meditation, but I believe I need
something to support this balance. I was wondering if you may have an inkling as
to what direction I could take to find this balance. Doctors have only ever kept
me very ill.
Exactly right!
Thank you for your comments if you are willing to share ideas.
I have given you extremely important and valuable advice. I expect you are too far gone to accept it -- but if you care to, write back.
Another part of your problem is diet -- I know this with certainty. You have a terrible diet.
I can guide you explicitly on the proper diet, but you MUST be, first, off psych drugs, and willing to write back.
We'll see if you do.
If you don't please advise your uncle that I responded and you have choosen to ignore my advice.
Kindly,
Karl Loren
-----Original Message-----
From: quilts@goeaston.net [mailto:quilts@goeaston.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 5:02 PM
To: Karl Loren
Subject: me again
Ok Karl..give me a couple weeks..I will do it and
-----Original Message-----
From: nwinn [mailto:nwinn@optonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 9:17 AM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: INSANE!
KARL YOU ARE RIGHT,DENA HAS TOO MEANY TROUBLES,AND IF YOU THINK SHE IS INSANE NOW ,YOU SHOULD HAVE MET HER FOUR YEARS AGO!RAVING MANIAC! SO SHE BECAME MY PET PROJECT. AND HAS BECOME A DIFFERENT PERSON,BUT HAS A LONG WAY TO GO.THIS SOUNDS LIKE I THINK I CHANGED HER,I DID NOT,BUT I GAVE HER HOPE..YOUR OPERATION IS SET UP TO HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE EFFECTIVLY, NOT A FEW PEOPLE,A LITTLE. AND DENA NEEDS A LOT OF PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING. NOT SYMPATHY.SO IT BOILS DOWN TO THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH KARL,S AROUND!MS HUNT IS QUITTING SMOKING,AS YOU KNOW A POWERFUL ADDICTION, SHE SAID TO ME SHE IS ALSO QUITTING HER OTHER MEDICATION BUT DID NOT SAY WHEN,I FEEL SHE MIGHT BE FRIGHTENED OF THE HEADACHES RETURNING AND NOT WANTING TO QUIT UNTIL SHE HAS SOME PROTECTION. I MENTIONED THE PHENYLALANINE.I HAD ALSO TOLD HER MSM WOULD BENEFIT, BEFOR WE CONTACTED YOU,I HOPE I WAS RIGHT. SHE IS ENTHUSIASTIC AND HAS A HEALTHY ATTITUDE,I URGED HER TO READ UP ON YOUR STUFF.THANK YOU, NICK.
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